June 4, 1924

LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

The error is in the preparation of the bill. There is no error in the agreement itself. It is not properly set out in the bill as presented to the House.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That, of course, could

be corrected in committee.

Resolution agreed to by unanimous consent and bill withdrawn.

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CUSTOMS TARIFF, 1907, AMENDMENT


Hon. J. A. ROBB (Acting Minister of Finance) moved the second reading of Bill No. 127, to amend the Customs Tariff, 1907.


CON

Alexandre Joseph Doucet

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ALEXANDRE DOUCET (Kent, N.B.):

Mr. Speaker, while this subject was

under discussion some few weeks ago, I had occasion to express what I thought was the opinion of my constituents in regard to the budget proposals. Shortly afterwards, I was taken to task by the hon. member for Gloucester (Mr. Robichaud), the hon. member for Westmorland (Mr. Copp) and members for other parts of the Maritime provinces as not expressing the views of my constituents or the electors generally of the Maritime provinces. At that time I moved an amendment which, unfortunately, was ruled out of order, and I propose again to-day to move the amendment on the second reading of this bill, knowing as I do that the budget reductions are very detrimental to various industries in this Dominion, and that it would be to the welfare of the whole country that a consistently maintained protective policy be pursued. Without elaborating much more upon this question which has been discussed fairly well during the last few weeks, I beg to move:

That all the words after the word " that " be struck out and the following substituted therefor:

This House is of opinion that the welfare of Canada requires a consistently maintained protective policy.

The House divided on the amendment (Mr. Doucet) which was negatived on the following division.

Arthurs, YEAS Messrs. Marler,

Black (Halifax), Maybee,

Bowen, Meighen,

Boys, Porter,

Chaplin, Ross (Kingston),

Church, Ryckman,

Doucet, Senn,

Drayton (Sir Henry), Sheard,

Duncan, Simpson,

Hanson, Spence,

Harris, Stansell,

Jones, Stevens,

Ladner, Stewart (Hamilton),

MacLaren, Stewart (Leeds),

Maclean (York), Sutherland,

McCrea, Thompson,

McQuarrie, White,

Manion, Wilson.-36.

Archambault, NAYS Messrs. Hoey,

Baldwin, Hopkins,

Bancroft, Hudson,

Beaubien, Hughes,

Bel and, Humphrey,

Benoit, Hunt,

Binette, Irvine,

Bird, Jelliff,

Black (Huron), Johnston,

Bouchard, Kay,

Brethen, Kelly,

Brown, Kennedy (Edmonton),

Bureau, Kennedy (Glengarry &

Cahill, Stormont),

Caldwell, Kennedy (Port Arthur &

Campbell, Kenora),

Cannon, King (Huron),

Carmichael, King (Kootenay),

Carroll, King, Mackenzie (York),

Carruthers, Knox,

Casgrain, Kyte,

Chisholm, Lanctot,

Coote, Lapierre,

Copp, Lavigueur,

d'Anjou, Leader,

Davies, Logan,

Dechene, Lovett,

Delisle, Lovie,

Denis (St. Denis), Lucas,

Desaulniers, Macdonald (Pictou),

Descoteaux, Mackinnon,

Deslauriers, MacLean (Prince, P.E.I.),

Desrochers, McBride,

Drummond, McConica,

Elliott (Waterloo), McDonald (Timiskaming),

Ethier, McGiverin,

Evans, Mclsaac,

Fafard, McKay,

Fansher, McMaster,

Forke, McMurray,

Forrester, McTaggart,

Fournier, Marcil (Bonaventure),

Gardiner, Marcile (Bagot),

Garland (Bow River), Martell,

Gauvreau, Michaud,

German, Millar,

Gervais, Milne,

Gordon, Morrison,

Gould, Morrissy,

Graham, Motherwell,

Halbert, Munro,

Hammell, Neill,

Hatfield, Papineau,

Healy, Pelletier,

Customs Tariff

Prevost, Speakman,

Putnam, Spencer,

Rankin, Steedsman,

Rinfret, Stewart (Argenteuil),

Robb, Stewart (Humboldt),

Roberge, Stork,

Robichaud, Thurston,

Robinson Tobin,

Ross (Simcoe), Vien,

St. Pere, Wallace,

Sales, Ward,

Savard, Warner,

Seguin, Woods,

Shaw, W oodsworth.-135.

Sinclair (Queens, P.E.I.),

PAIRS

(The list of pairs is furnished by the Chief Whips.

Ministerial. Opposition.

Murphy, Simpson,

Power, Mewbum,

Cardin, Baxter,

Low, Preston,

Duff, Dickie,

Gendron, Garland,

Fielding, Bristol,

Bourassa, Clark,

Sinclair (Oxford), McKillop.

Parent, Guthrie,

Chevrier, Charters,

Hodgins, Tolmie,

Morin, Hocken,

Denis (Joliette), Anderson,

Ouimet, Black,

Mercier, LeSueur,

Fontaine, Grimmer.

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CON

Richard Franklin Preston

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. F. PRESTON (Lanark):

I was

paired with the hon. member for South Renfrew (Mr. Low), otherwise I would have /oted for the amendment.

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CON

Charles Herbert Dickie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. C. H. DICKIE (Nanaimo):

I was

paired with the hon. member for Lunenburg (Mr. Duff), otherwise I would have voted for the amendment.

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LIB

Edgar-Rodolphe-Eugène Chevrier

Liberal

Mr. E. R. E. CHEVRIER (Ottawa):

I

was paired with the hon. member for Peel (Mr. Charters), othewise I would have voted against the amendment.

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LIB

Duncan James Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. D. J. SINCLAIR (North Oxford):

I

was paired with the hon. member for West Elgin (Mr. McKillop), otherwise I would have voted against the amendment.

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LIB

Charles Arthur Gauvreau

Liberal

Mr. GAUVREAU:

I think there must be

an error in the vote, Mr. Speaker. The clerk gave the yeas as 36 and the nays as 114. Surely there must be more than 150 persons present.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

There are no doubt a

great many errors on the part of hon. gentlemen voting, but I do not think there has been any mistake in the count.

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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I cannot doubt the

accuracy of the count as made by the Clerk of the House. However, if hon. members insist, it shall be revised.

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LIB
LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am just informed that

the count is correct.

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Motion agreed to, bill read the second time, and the House went into committee thereon. Mr. Gordon in the chair. On section 2-Ad valorem rate of duty.


CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

When the resolution was in committee of the 4 p.m. Whole certain questions were asked with reference to the duty on tea. The minister had not the information at the time but subsequently we got something like an estimate. How many appeals were there before the Customs Board at that time and what were the names of the appellants?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I understand there were some appeals. I could not tell my hon. friend how many.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Perhaps the

minister will write ,me a letter showing exactly What the amounts are and everything else.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

The amount was estimated

at about 847,000.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

What was the amount in question on appeal, and who were the appellants?

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June 4, 1924