June 4, 1924


Hon. J. A. ROBB (Acting Minister of Finance) moved that the House go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following proposed resolution. Resolved, That it is expedient to amend the Loan Companies Act', 1914, and to provide,- 1. That the Superintendent of Insurance shall annually ascertain and certify the total amount of the expenditure incurred by the government for or in connection with the administration of the act during the last preceding fiscal year, and the total amount of income received during the last preceding calendar year by each company, and the findings of the superintendent shall be final and conclusive. 2. That thereupon the superintendent shall ascertain the ratio or percentage which the total expenditure so found and certified bears to the aggregate of the income aforesaid, and shall assess each of the companies an amount equivalent to that percentage of the total amount of the income received, and such assessment when certified by the superintendent shall be binding upon the said companies, and be final and conclusive. 3. That the amount so assessed against each company shall constitute a debt payable to His Majesty, and shall be payable upon demand of the superintendent, and may be recovered as a debt in any court of competent jurisdiction. He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the favourable consideration of the House. Motion agreed to. INSURANCE ACT, 1917, AMENDMENT Hon. J. A. ROBB (Acting Minister of Finance) moved that the House go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following proposed resolution. Resolved, That it is expedient to amend the Insurance Act, 1917, and to provide,- 1. That there shall be a department of the government of Canada to be called the Department of Insurance over which the Minister of Finance shall preside, and the Governor in Council may appoint an officer to be called the Superintendent of Insurance, who shall be the deputy head of the department and hold office during pleasure. Such officer shall be paid such salary as may be authorized by law, and perform such duties as are prescribed. 2. That the Superintendent of Insurance shall annually ascertain and certify the total amount of the expenditure incurred by the government for or in connection with the administration of the act during the last preceding fiscal year and the total amount of gross premiums received in Canada during the last' preceding calendar year by each company licensed under the act and by each company not licensed under the act but transacting life insurance business thereunder, deducting the amount of the dividends paid or allowed by each such company to its policy holders in Canada during the said year, and the findings of the superintendent so certified shall be final and conclusive. 3. That thereupon the superintendent shall ascertain the ratio or percentage which the total expenditure so found and certified bears to the aggregate of the net receipts, aforesaid, and shall assess each of the companies an amount equivalent to that percentage of the gross premiums received in Canada, less dividends, and such assessment when certified by the Superintendent, shall be binding upon the said companies, and be final and conclusive. 4. That the amount so assessed against each company shall constitute a debt' payable to His Majesty, and shall be payable upon demand of the superintendent, and may be recovered as a debt in any court of competent jurisdiction.



The late Mr. MacKelvie



He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the favourable consideration of the House. Motion agreed to. DEATH OF MR. JOHN A. MacKELVIE, M.P. On the Orders of the Day:


LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to

express something of the sorrow which all hon. members of this House must have experienced this morning on learning of the very sudden death of one of our number, Mr. John Armstrong MacKelvie, the member for Yale. With characteristic fidelity the hon. member was in his seat in this chamber last evening. He left the House shortly before ten o'clock, and we are informed that at one o'clock this morning he was seized with heart failure and died with tragic suddenness. Hon. members on this side will join with my right hon. friend (Mr. Meighen), and those who sit opposite, in deploring the loss to this parliament of one who was a much honoured and highly esteemed member of this parliament.

Though Mr. MacKelvie was born in the Maritime provinces he was associated, during most of his life, with western Canada. He went to Calgary at the age of eighteen years, and a year or two later served with the Alberta Mounted Rifles in the Riel Rebellion. Shortly afterwards he went to reside in British Columbia, first in Vancouver and subsequently in Vernon. For the last thirty years of his life his activities, both as a journalist and as a member of parliament, were identified more particularly with the interests and politics of the Pacific province. Mr. MacKelvie entered parliament at a byelection in 1920, and was re-elected at the general election in 1921.

In his endeavour to mould thought and opinion by the written and the spoken word, Mr. MacKelvie brought to his task the attributes of a generous and kindly disposition. He was a man of high intellectual attainments, and of broad human sympathies. Though we on this side of the House differed from him in political opinion, we recognized that both in his writings and in his verbal utterances his views were expressed with conviction and with moderation and he commanded our esteem and high regard.

I express to my right hon. friend the leader of the opposition my sympathy in the loss of one who has been a loyal, devoted and

helpful colleague as well as supporter. I should like to express also to the constituency of Yale my sense of the loss it has sustained in the death of one who during the period of his parliamentary career represented its interests with ability and fidelity. I know the House will desire that on its behalf I should express to Mrs. MacKelvie our profound sympathy in the sudden and overwhelming bereavement she has sustained.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, our meeting this afternoon is clouded with the shadow of a very great loss indeed. All of us will find it difficult to banish from our minds the sense of depression and of sorrow that followed the sad announcement of this morning, particularly those who sit in this section of the chamber. We feel that at this moment we suffer a calamity the memory of which will not easily be removed.

My association with Mr. MacKelvie personally dated only from 1920. In that year -due to the resignation of the previous member, Hon. Martin Burrell, the present Parliamentary Librarian-a by-election occurred in the constituency of Yale, British Columbia. From the beginning there appeared no question as to who should succeed the previous representative so far as the candidate for the Liberal-Conservative party was concerned. I visited the district at the time and was impressed with the general sense of confidence felt in Mr. MacKelvie as a citizen, and with the high tribute paid him for his constant, faithful public service and, generally, the wonderfully unique standing which he held in the community in which for so long he had lived. Coming to that constituency from the far East of Canada he enjoyed a knowledge of our whole Dominion, a sweep of vision that stood him in good stead in his efforts in the federal field; nor did he ever lose his very deep and prevailing affection for his own constituency. In the House of Commons, from the very hour in which he rose first to second the Address in reply to the Speech from the Throne his standing in the House was fixed. He understood every subject he attempted to discuss. His chief outstanding characteristic as a public man was fair-mindedness; his chief moral characteristic was fidelity. These pervaded his every utterance from the first to the last. Nor throughout the whole course of his life here did he ever allow anything to interfere with that sedulous attention to duty which has characterized his whole life. We knew him as a companion as well as a political colleague; we knew him

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as an associate in times of success and in periods of reverse, and we can never forget the loyal friend we have lost. I am very grateful indeed to the Prime Minister for the generous tribute he has rendered, and I join with him in a note of sorrow and of sympathy for her who, most of any one in all the world, feels the terrible disaster of this hour. I am sure the entire House will join in expressing to her our deepest sympathy and regret.

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Robert Forke

Progressive

Mr. ROBERT FORKE (Brandon):

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the members who sit in this section of the House, I wish to associate myself with the sentiments expressed by the Prime Minister and the right hon. leader of the opposition (Mr. Meighen). The news which came to members of the House this morning of the sudden passing of Mr. MacKelvie was a great shock to us. As has already been mentioned, he was in the House with us last night, and the first intimation we got when we came to the buildings this morning was that he had passed away. I am glad to be able to say that Mr. MacKelvie was one of the first friends I met when I came to Ottawa for the first session of this parliament. I do not know exactly what was the attraction, but almost immediately on coming to Ottawa I found myself in very close relationship with Mr. MacKelvie, and I am very glad to be able to say that, during the three sessions which I have attended, that friendship has been maintained. When I came down from Winnipeg for the opening of this session, Mr. MacKelvie happened to be on the same train; and in the two days when we were fellow-travellers we had many opportunities of conversation and of strengthening our friendship; and, while differing on some public questions, we found many interests that we held in common. I found that he was a man of great sympathy, of high attainments and a wide knowdedge of public affairs. I am sure that to-day our sympathy goes out to the bereaved wife who is in rather delicate health; and the attention and the care which Mr. MacKelvie bestowed upon her, during that railway journey, was beautiful to witness. I am sure that through all the years to come one of the greatest consolations of her life will be the sweet memory of that beloved husband who has passed away. Mr. MacKelvie did not speak often in this House, but when he did speak he always conveyed to his hearers in this House an impression of sincerity and ability to grasp the different sides of any question under discussion.

I join with the hon. members who have spoken in expressing my sympathy to the 17&i

members of the Conservative party in the great loss they have sustained. Mr. MacKelvie served his province well, and was always, I think, working in the interests of this great Dominion.

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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE


On the Orders of the Day:


PRO

Robert Forke

Progressive

Mr. ROBERT FORKE (Brandon):

Does

the government intend to take any steps to expedite the business of the House, so that we can make better progress than we have been making in the past few weeks. We are in the month of June now; we have a lot of business to do, and I hope we shall proceed a little more quickly.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I think the matter of

expediting the business of the House rests more with the members than with the government.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

It is the intention of the government to take Wednesday nights after this week, but not to-night.

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INDIAN RESERVE LANDS


On the Order being called. Second reading of Bill No. 59, for the settlement of certain questions between the governments of Canada and Ontario respecting Indian Reserve Lands.-The Minister of the Interior.


LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. CHARLES STEWART (Argenteuil) (Minister of the Interior):

I find that in, connection. with this bill there have been certain errors in the schedule. I therefore move that the order be discharged. I propose to reintroduce it in proper form.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

I do not understand discharging the order from the paper merely because of an error in the schedule. Why not correct the error in committee?

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Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

It is rather important that this agreement between the government of Ontario and the Dominion government should be in proper form. There is another matter in connection with this bill; I doubt if it could be called an omission, because this is not really a money bill; the law clerk calls attention to the fact that it is not introduced by a resolution, and he thinks it should be, inasmuch as it deals with the passing of money between two governments. I propose to re-introduce the amended bill with the amended schedule, and in proper form, so that there will be no mistake about it.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The second reason is

certainly a good one for having the motion declared out- of order, which is virtually the same as a discharge. Is the schedule the agreement itself?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

Yes, it is

the agreement between the two governments.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

How could there be an

error in that if the, two governments have executed it?

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June 4, 1924