April 29, 1924

UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA


Petitions to the number of 151 were presented on the subject of Bill No. 47, to incorporate the United Church of Canada. A list of these petitions and of the names of The Budget-Mr. Marler



the members by whom they were severally presented appeal's on page 1829.


OLD AGE PENSIONS

APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister) moved:

That a special committee be appointed to make an inquiry into an old age pension system for Canada, with power to send for persons, papers and records and to report from time to time, and that the said committee do consist of the following named members, namely, Messrs. Fontaine, Irvine, Logan, Mc-Conica, Munro, Neill, Preston, Raymond, Robichaud, Sexsmith, Spence and St. Pere.

Topic:   OLD AGE PENSIONS
Subtopic:   APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Notice is required for this motion, unless by unanimous consent.

Topic:   OLD AGE PENSIONS
Subtopic:   APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY
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Motion agreed to.


JUDGES' ACT AMENDMENT


Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 65, to amend the Judges' Act. He said: Under statute of the province of Ontario enacted in 1919 the Lieutenant Governor in Council 'may designate certain counties to form a county court district, and in many cases counties have been so grouped. The purpose of the amendment is. to permit the Governor in Council to fix a place for the residence of the judge or judges in such districts when so created.


IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. MACLEAN (York):

Does the proposed measure make provision for any changes or readjustments of salaries?

Topic:   JUDGES' ACT AMENDMENT
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

No.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   JUDGES' ACT AMENDMENT
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THE BUDGET

CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL


The House resumed from Monday, April 28, the debate on the motion of Hon. J. A. Robb (Acting Minister of Finance) that Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair for the House to go into Committee of Ways and Means, and the proposed amendment thereto of Mr. Woods worth.


LIB

Herbert Meredith Marler

Liberal

Mr. HERBERT MARLER (St. Lawrence-St. George):

entirely out of consideration any book-keeping entries or any accounting, as a most excellent financial statement brought down by the government this year. This government, as I have stated before and can only repeat to-day, has had to bear great expenditures, partly due to the war and partly due to causes over which they have absolutely no control. But what I venture to ask,-and I do it with all respect-is: Why try to place before the public a difficult system of accounting which the public itself cannot be expected to understand? Why not place before the public the actual condition of receipts and expenditures as they may occur from year to year, taking the public into our confidence as questions arise, and asking the public to assist us in governing this country which is so exceedingly difficult to govern? Therefore, taking the railway expenditures to which I have referred and charging back the amount of the guarantee utilized for the purpose, I do not think that what might be called a direct surplus can be ,brought down this year; as a matter of fact, I would say that there is a small deficit. But let me again repeat, Mr. Speaker, that there is nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in this account, even with these bookkeeping entries reversed. It is an excellent statement for the government to bring down under all the conditions; it is a step very much in the right direction. When we consider that last year there was a deficit of $31,500,000, and that this year, even with the most drastic system of bookkeeping that one can bring forward, that deficit is reduced at the outside to a very small amount, I think the Acting Minister of Finance and the government itself are very much to be congratulated on bringing forward a statement of that character.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

Andrew Ross McMaster

Liberal

Mr. McMASTER:

How does the hon.

member treat the guarantee by the government of the Canadian National Railway Company's serial equipment issue of $22,500,000? Does he add that to the debt as well?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

Herbert Meredith Marler

Liberal

Mr. MARLER:

I do not know when that

issue was made. * .

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

Andrew Ross McMaster

Liberal

Mr. McMASTER:

That issue was made

August, 1923. I refer to page 1214 of Hansard, top of the second column.

Mr. MARLER No, I have not taken that into account in this computation.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

Andrew Ross McMaster

Liberal

Mr. McMASTER:

I am merely asking for information. If the hon. member thinks it wise and proper-and I am inclined to agree with him-that the $50,000,000 guarantee bond issue of the Canadian National Railways should be a charge against the national debt,

[Mr. Marler 1

why does he not treat this $22,500,000 in the same way?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   MINISTER OF FINANCE
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April 29, 1924