April 10, 1924

CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I think my right hon. friend is mistaken as to the object of the adjournment. It is not to prepare a speech; that is an easy matter and could be done at once. It is to find out, in view of the resolutions, whether in fact they are as bad as they appear, or whether some of them can be supported.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF HON. J. A. ROBB, ACTING MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I am glad my hon. friend has given the reason which he has mentioned, just now; when he asked for the adjournment it was because so few members would be present on Friday. I do not think that is a very good reason, and the one he has just urged is equally bad. However, we are prepared to go on with the railway resolutions, and continue them, but we would like to take up Labour estimates to-morrow.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF HON. J. A. ROBB, ACTING MINISTER OF FINANCE
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

Hitherto, with all budget speeches, the desire of the opposition to have the debate adjourned until the following week, if the budget speech was delivered either on the last or the second last day of the week, has been acceded to without conditions. I am surprised that an attempt has been made to imply conditions now. I, for one, will submit to no conditions. If the government refuse the adjournment till Monday they will take the responsibility.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF HON. J. A. ROBB, ACTING MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

My right hon. friend has taken his characteristic attitude. I made the request, owing to a difficulty which arises in respect to a technical rule, in the hope that the right hon. leader of the opposition might help to expedite the business of the House by permitting us to take up the Labour estimates to-morrow. However, I have no desire to imitate the pettiness of my right hon. friend, and am ready to accede to the hon. member's request.

Motion agreed to and debate adjourned. CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF HON. J. A. ROBB, ACTING MINISTER OF FINANCE
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BILLS PROPOSED TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BRANCH LINES


Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals) moved that the House go into committee to consider the following proposed resolutions:


TURTLEFORD-HAFFORD


Resolved, that it is expedient to bring in a measure to provide for the construction of a Canadian National Railway line from Turtleford, in a generally southeasterly direction, to a point at or near Hafford, in the province of Saskatchewan; mileage already graded, 23 miles; estimated mileage including existing grading, 102 miles; estimated cost, $2,313,000. He said: The other day an hon. gentleman on the other side of the House asked me if it was the intention of the government to submit these bills to the Railway committee. I think the answer given was that it was not the intention to do so. Several hon. members have suggested that we would be expediting matters by placing the Canadian National Railways to a certain extent at least in the same position as a private company, in the matter of appearing before the Railway committee. I have considered the matter carefully, but I am not sure what will be gained by it. Government measures are not usually submitted to a committee; but if this would expedite business at all, I would have no objection provided that, first, I would be allowed to take up those bills that have had a first reading, give them a second reading and submit them to the Railway committee. This much would have to be understood, in fairness to the opposition, of course, that opportunity would have to be given on the second reading of some of these bills to discuss the principle involved as to the three-year programme. I imagine the Railway committee might not want to deal with that entirely, although they would discuss it. Therefore, if this is agreeable to the House, I might be permitted to move these other bills a second reading and then move that they be referred to the Railway committee. I will do so as the first order of business and let the Railway committee deal with them.


CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I appreciate

the fact that they cannot be referred to the Railway committee until they have received second reading; but if the hon. gentleman says that they will go to the Railway committee, that will save a great deal of time in this House. We would have liked to help him in that regard last year. We have already consented to some of them, and if my hon. friend will make a note of them on his agenda, perhaps I can help him this afternoon.

Order No. 12 is a resolution covering a proposed branch line from near Kelvington at mile 114 on the Canadian Northern railway, in a westerly direction, to a point in township 37, range 13, west of the second meridian,

C.N.R.-Branch Lines

in the province of Saskatchewan. That is a line with which I am familiar and which ought to be built. I think it should have been built last year. We are quite ready to facilitate my hon. friend in eveiy way in getting that on to the Senate.

The next resolution, Order No. 13, covers a proposed branch line from Prince Albert to near Paddockwood in the province of Saskatchewan. The same remarks apply to that. We were always in favour of that line.

The next one, Order No. 14, covers a proposed line from Eyre in the province of Saskatchewan to Acadia Valley in the province of Alberta. The same remarks apply to that.

The next one, Order No. 15, covers a proposed line from Eston in a southeasterly direction to White Bear in the province of Saskatchewan. The same remarks apply to that. Then resolution, Order No. 17, covers a proposed line from St. Paul, in a southeasterly direction to a point in or near township 57, range 6, west of the fourth meridian in the province of Alberta. We have no objection to that. That is as much as I can give my hon. friend in the meantime, but it will give him a bit of work.

Topic:   TURTLEFORD-HAFFORD
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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

These are resolutions; we

will get them through and give the bills their first readings.

Resolution read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Graham thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 48, respecting the construction of a Canadian National railway line from Turtleford to near Hafford in the province of Saskatchewan.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Mr. GRAHAM moved that resolutions, Orders Nos 12, 13, 14, 15 and 17 be taken up concurrently.

Topic:   TURTLEFORD-HAFFORD
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PRO

Charles Wallace Stewart

Progressive

Mr. STEWART (Humboldt):

I would

ask the minister to leave resolution, Order No. 12, out of those which he has enumerated.

Topic:   TURTLEFORD-HAFFORD
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LIB

Motion agreed to. Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals) moved that the House go into committee to consider the following proposed resolutions:


DUNBLANE TO MAWER


Resolved, that it is expedient to bring in a measure i'o provide for the construction of a Canadian National Railway line from Dunblane on the Canadian Northern railway, in a generally southeasterly direction, to Mawer on the Grand Trunk Pacific railway in the province of Saskatchewan; estimated mileage including existing grading, 42 miles; estimated cost, $2,767,000.


KELVINGTON WESTERLY


Resolved, that it is expedient to bring in a measure io provide for the construction of a Canadian National Railway line from the end of steel near Kel-vington at Mile 114 on the Canadian Northern railway, in a westerly direction, to a point in township 37, range 13, west of the 2nd meridian, in the province of Saskatchewan; mileage already graded, 4 miles; estimated mileage including existing grading, 13 miles; estimated cost, $290,000


PRINCE ALBERT-PADDOCKWOOD


Resolved, that it is expedient to bring in a measure i'o provide for the construction of a Canadian National Railway line from Prince Albert, in a northeasterly direction, to near Paddockwood, in the province of Saskatchewan; mileage already graded, 17 miles; estimated mileage including existing grading, 23 miles; estimated cost, $406,000.


EYRE-ACADIA VALLEY

April 10, 1924