April 1, 1924

LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

I was asking, why not?

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I am sure my hon. friend has not thought of it seriously. What is the operating ratio down in New Brunswick at the present moment? I think my hon. friend will find that it is pretty heavy.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

Surely.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I think my hon. friend will find the operating ratio is so heavy that he will get nothing through the movement of traffic down at that point. If I am wrong in that conclusion I would like to be set right. We are taking plain, straight business. It is not good business if it now costs $1.10 and you are going to make it cost $1.30 I point out that accepting your own statement, it means that you start a movement from St. John and run it from St. John down to the junction point on the American boundary-

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

My hon. friend wants to

be fair, perhaps. He knows the movement from St. John is not the movement of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. He is confining himself to whatever traffic may originate through St. John. He is not taking New Brunswick or Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I did not ask

where everything was coming from.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

Be fair.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I am trying to be fair.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

I do not think the hon.

gentleman is trying to be fair.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRA DRAYTON:

I asked my

hon. friend whether the object of this undertaking was to take traffic from St. John to the junction shown on the map laid on the table.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM :

I answered that. My hon. friend again intimates that the object of this railway is for the sole purpose of taking traffic that originates in St. John. It is not anything of the kind. It is to make a short route for the traffic from Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick to the New England market.

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PRO

Thomas Wakem Caldwell

Progressive

Mr. CALDWELL:

A small fraction will

go through St. John.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I do not know. Perhaps there is some other reason for it but the farther this goes on the worse I think it is, simply because my hon. friend is saying that I say something which I do not say at all. He tells me frankly one of the reasons for the work is to boost St. John.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

I did not say anything

of the kind.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I think we will have to get our information right.

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CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEVENS:

I asked the minister a

question, and I do not think he gave me a very frank answer. I pointed out that this proposed line referred to in the resolution connected at the boundary of the state of Maine and the province of New Brunswick at a point called Vanceboro with a proposed American line. I pointed out that that American line

the Boston and Maine-

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

The Maine Central.

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CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEVENS:

-was indicated on the

map to be the Canadian Pacific railway. I have a map published by my hon. friend's own government showing that. Further than that, I am informed-and I think, this is perfectly correct-that the Canadian Pacific Railway actually own the majority of stock of the American line. It being an American corporation all our lines operating in the States must operate under American charters. By the construction of the fourteen miles repeatedly referred to by the hon. member for Fort William and Rainy River (Mr. Manion) to the point at Harvey, you can deliver the Canadian National traffic to exactly the same railway, the same operators and save to the country the construction of the difference between 14 and 41 miles.

C.N.R. Branch Lines

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LIB

Edward Mortimer Macdonald (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Pictou):

The basis

of my hon. friend's argument is that the Canadian Pacific control the Boston and Maine railway. I would like to know what authority he has for that.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

The Maine

Central.

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April 1, 1924