March 28, 1924


On the Orders of the Day:


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to call the attention of the government to a very obvious error in the reply to a question of yesterday, and I would like the government to have the question restored and the correct answer given. The question was by myself, and appears on page 726 of Hansard.

I quote:

Under what authority of what statute did the government pass Order in Council P.C. 1563 of August 14, 1923, guaranteeing to permit for a period of ten years the shipping out of pulpwood from Canada under existing contracts?

The answer was:

Right Hon. Mr. Mackenzie King: Under authority of chapter 46, Statutes of Canada, 1923. 13-14 George V.

This statute I have before me. It is very simple. The statute simply authorizes the government to prohibit the exportation of pulpwood and was passed on the 30th of June, 1923. It adds pulpwood to the articles permitted to be prohibited under chapter 50, of the statutes of 1906, which statute reads as follows:

The Governor in Council may by regulation prohibit the exportation from Canada of petroleum in its crude or partly manufactured state.

With the addition of last year it will read:

-and pulpwood of the variety, kind, place of origin or having the particulars of identification or ownership or production described in the regulation.

The government will see at once that it merely authorizes the prohibition. It does not authorize any exception.

Topic:   EXPORT OF PULPWOOD
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

In giving the answer

I may say I was guided by the order in council itself. The order in council was drafted by the ex-Minister of Justice, and I assumed that it stated accurately the authority. I will be pleased to lay on the Table of the House a copy of the order in council. I am glad my right hon. friend has brought the matter up if the authority is not correct.

Topic:   EXPORT OF PULPWOOD
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I would ask the Prime

Minister to refer the matter to the Justice department again. I am sure they would never allege there was authority there.

DOMINION LANDS ACT On the Orders of the Day:

Topic:   EXPORT OF PULPWOOD
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PRO

Neil Haman McTaggart

Progressive

Mr. NEIL McTAGGART (Maple Creek):

Is it the intention of the government to introduce legislation at this session of the House amending the Dominion Lands Act with its amendments, and if so, what is the nature of the proposed legislation in this regard?

Topic:   EXPORT OF PULPWOOD
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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. CHARLES STEWART (Minister of the Interior):

We have the matter under

consideration, but at the moment I am unable to say definitely what the amendments will be.

Topic:   EXPORT OF PULPWOOD
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CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS


BRANCH LINES BILLS On the Orders of the Day:


PRO

Milton Neil Campbell

Progressive

Mr. M. N. CAMPBELL (Mackenzie):

Is it the intention of the government to refer the various branch lines bills to the select standing committee on Railways and Canals for consideration?

Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways): It is not the intention to refer the branch lines bills to the Railway committee.

Penitentiaries Act

Topic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
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INTERNATIONAL DEEP WATERWAYS COMMISSION.


On the Orders of the Day:


PRO

John Millar

Progressive

Mr. JOHN MILLAR (Qu'Appelle):

Does the government deem it necessary it should give consideration to the allegations of some United States newspapers, including the Engineering News-Record of New York, of March 20, that President Coolidge's appointees to the International St. Lawrence Deep Waterways Commission, with few exceptions are strongly in favour of the project?

Topic:   INTERNATIONAL DEEP WATERWAYS COMMISSION.
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

If I gathered my hon.

friend's question aright it is: Does the government intend to observe that most of the appointees on the National Committee the United States government is appointing are in favour of the deep waterways project, and will this government govern its action accordingly?

Topic:   INTERNATIONAL DEEP WATERWAYS COMMISSION.
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PRO

John Millar

Progressive

Mr. MILLAR:

In effect, does the government consider it its duty to recognize or take cognizance of that fact in any way?

Topic:   INTERNATIONAL DEEP WATERWAYS COMMISSION.
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I cannot say,

of course, how accurate the report may be. I cannot say whether it is true or not true, that the American appointees are all in favour of the deep waterways project. I imagine that what my hon. friend wishes to elicit is whether our government in making its nominations to our National Committee intends to appoint only those who are in favour of the project. If that is what he has in mind, I would say to him that the government will endeavour to name as members of the National Committee gentlemen whose judgment will be recognized as independent in a matter of this kind.

Topic:   INTERNATIONAL DEEP WATERWAYS COMMISSION.
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INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES INVESTIGATION ACT, 1907, AMENDMENT


Hon. JAMES MURDOCK (Minister of Labour) moved the third reading of Bill No. 7, to amend the Industrial Disputes Investigation Act, 1907. Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed.


PENITENTIARIES ACT AMENDMENT


Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice) moved the second reading of Bill No. 12, to amend the Penitentiaries Act. Motion agreed to, bill read the second time, and the House went into committee thereon, Mr. Gordon in the chair. On section 1-Power of warden and officers to prevent escape and to effect arrest and recapture of escaping convicts.


LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I gave the explanation on the first reading of the bill.

Topic:   PENITENTIARIES ACT AMENDMENT
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March 28, 1924