April 10, 1923

PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

I explained to my hon. friend that it was hoped when the original item of $500,000 was put in the estimates that we would have complete details and plans and be ready to go ahead. We have not been able to develop those details, and therefore I have asked the committee to reduce the estimate to $150,000. I am advised that the building will cost in the vicinity of $500,000 at least, but the whole matter is to be worked out in detail before any expenditure is made.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

The explanation is simply that the minister cannot tell us. He does not know, and he gives his excuse for not knowing.

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

A very sound excuse, too.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

That is what the minister thinks. It seems to me that he might have had his work in hand and been ready with full particulars before asking parliament to vute this sum. What is the floor area of the present building, and of the projected building?

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

It is proposed to make a careful survey of buildings of the character of an up-to-date Printing bureau. That survey is to be made jointly by a representative from the bureau and the architect of the department. We have not been able to make this survey to date, and that is why I am asking that the estimate be reduced. Nothing will be undertaken until full details are supplied.

Topic:   SUPPLY-DISMISSAL OF JOHN J. HAYES FROM POSTAL SERVICE
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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

If that is the case there is no reason why this item should not be struck out.

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IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. MACLEAN (York):

Is the department now able to do all the government printing work, or is some of it being done outside?

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

I am not sure.

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IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. MACLEAN (York):

We ought to have that information.

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LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MURDOCK:

Practically all of the government printing is done in the Printing bureau. There have been-

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Exceptions.

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LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MURDOCK:

-some slight exceptions- not so many as a short time ago.

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CON

John Babington Macaulay Baxter

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BAXTER:

I heard the minister say the old building would be used for other purposes. We ought to know definitely what department he intends to accommodate there so that we may judge as to the suitability of the building for the purpose. '

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

In my original statement 1 said it was considered that the building would be very suitable for the Statistical branch. This branch has a large staff, ordinarily about three hundred, and during the census operations the number runs up to some six or seven hundred. I am advised by the Architect's branch that suitable accommodation could be provided for them in the old building.

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CON

John Babington Macaulay Baxter

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BAXTER:

Where are they housed now?

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

On Bank and Vit-toria in some temporary buildings.

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CON

William Alves Boys (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BOYS:

I suppose there is no question that once we pass this item we are irretrievably committed to an ultimate expenditure of $500,000 or more?

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Two million dollars practically.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

It might be anything.

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CON

William Alves Boys (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BOYS:

That being so, I am prompted to put another inquiry. When the item stood at $500,000 was that for the complete building or only for partial construction?

Supply-Public, Works

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April 10, 1923