March 23, 1923

LIVE STOCK ACTS AMENDMENT


Mr. KAY presented the fourth report of the select standing committee on Agriculture and Colonization, as follows: Your committee have had under consideration Bill No. 10, to amend and consolidate the Acts Respecting Live Stock and have agreed to report the same with amendments.


INTERNATIONAL LABOUR CONFERENCE

LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. JAMES MURDOCK (Minister of Labour):

I beg to lay on the Table of the

House the authentic texts of the Draft Conventions and Recommendations adopted by the International Labour Conference (League of Nations) at its third session held in Geneva, Switzerland, October 25-November 19, 1921.

Under paragraph 5 of article 405 of the Treaties of Peace.

Each of the members undertakes that it will, within the period of one year at most from the closing of the session of the conference, or if it is impossible owing to exceptional circumstances ^to do so within the period of one year, then at the earliest practicable moment and in no case later than eighteen months from the closing of the session of the conference, bring the recommendation or draft convention before the authority or authorities within whose competence the matter lies, for the enactment of legislation 01-other, action.

When the authentic texts of the Draft Conventions and Recommendations of the '1921 conference were received from the Secretary-General o.f the League of Nations they were referred to the Department of Justice for

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consideration of the question whether the proposals involved were to be regarded as within Dominion or provincial legislative competent The report, of the Minister of Justice on this subject was approved by order in council on June 27, 1922, and a copy of the order in council is attached to the texts of the Draft Conventions and Recommendations for the information of the House. It will be observed that most of the proposals were found to be within provincial jurisdiction. Copies of the order in council of June 27, 1922, and of the authentic texts of the Draft Conventions and Recommendations were transmitted subsequently to the different lieutenant-governors for the consideration of their respective governments with a view to such legislative or other action in line with the proposals involved as each provincial government might be advised to take. The obligations of the government of Canada under the Peace Treaties have thus been fulfilled in respect of the individual measures of the 1921 conference which were found to be within the provincial sphere.

With respect to those Draft Conventions and Recommendations which were found to be within federal legislative competence, the authentic texts are being brought before parliament in conformity with the requirements of paragraph 5 of article 405 of the Treaties of Peace and are being laid on the Table of the House. The questions involved in these latter Draft Conventions and Recommendations are also receiving the attention of the government. The Dominion government has proposed to the several provincial governments, that a Dominion-provincial conference should be held for the purpose of considering certain aspects of matters arising out of the relations between Canada and the International Labour Organization. Most of the provinces have already expressed their acquiescence in this suggestion and it is expected that the meeting will be held in the early part of next summer.

Referring to the inquiry which was made in the House yesterday by the right hon. leader of the Opposition (Mr. Meighen), as to "when the House may' expect the report of the last meeting of the International Labour Conference," I find that the government has not as yet received either the printed report of the discussions of the conference or the authentic texts of the recommendations which were adopted by the conference.

As I mentioned yesterday, a report of the 1922 session of the International Labour Conference appeared in the December issue of the Labour Gazette, the official monthly Journal of the Department of Labour of Canada. I have pleasure in laying a copy of a re-print

of this article from the Labour Gazette on the Table of the House for the purposes of information.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

My information is that the report in the Gazette to which the hon. member referred yesterday and again to-day is not a complete report. It is only in part a report of the conference. Is that correct? I may not have caught what the hon. gentleman said, but I did not come to any clear understanding myself of his remarks as to why the report could be in the Gazette of December and the government not yet in receipt of the full report to lay on the Table of the House.

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LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MURDOCK:

My hon. friend will note that I have only laid on the Table of the House the authentic text of the draft conventions adopted at the 1921 conference. The authentic text of what was done at the 1922 conference has not yet been received by the Department of Labour. It has not yet come to Canada. We hope to have it within the next few months; but there is always, I understand, great delay in sending forward the authentic text. The report that appeared in the issue of December last of the Labour Gazette was, it is believed, as full and complete as was necessary. I am going to send across the floor to my right hon. friend a copy so that he can peruse it.

On the Orders of the Day:

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

I observe in the press to-day an announcement that Mrs. James Carruthers of England, who formerly was Miss Violet Markham, has been selected to represent this government on the governing body of the International Labour Conference at its meeting in April. Is this correct, and if it is, what superior qualifications has she over Canadians to represent us on that body?

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LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. JAMES MURDOCK (Minister of Labour) :

The report is correct, although I do not think it would be at all proper to intimate that Mrs. James Carruthers would have any superior qualifications over very many of our Canadian women. The circumstances are, however, that we received notice only very recently, as to the date of the next meeting of the governing body of the International Labour Office to be held on April 10 at Geneva, and with that notice a copy of the agenda of the matters to be dealt with. For the January meeting of the governing body, we received notice so late that it was regarded as inadvisable, under the circumstances,

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to endeavour to arrange for a substitute for the representative for Canada on the governing board for the January meeting. On this occasion, we undertook to secure representation hurriedly and by cable, endeavouring to secure a gentleman who, it was thought, would very ably represent Canada. That was found impossible; so Mrs. James Carruthers was asked to represent Canada and she very kindly consented to act. Mrs. Carruthers, although resident in England, has visited all parts of Canada, and is the author of a handbook on the Factory and Shop Acts of the British dominions, which was issued by the industrial sub-committee of the Victoria League. She is a member of the executive committee of the British National Relief Fund and of the Central Committee of Women's Employment, and was Deputy Director of the Women's section of the National Service Department in 1917, and was appointed a member of the British Industrial Court in 1920.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Just to save time, will the hon. gentleman lay on the Table of the House to-morrow, if possible, the notification, with notification of its receipt, and- the other correspondence to which he has just referred? I may mention that there was one qualification which he forgot, namely that this lady was a Liberal candidate for Parliament at the last election; running against the Labour candidate.

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LIB

James Murdock (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MURDOCK:

I was uninformed as to that fact, if it is a fact.

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PRIVATE BILLS FIRST READINGS


Bill No. 86 (from the Senate), for the relief of Frederick Wesley Graham.-Mr. Hunt. Bill No. 87 (from the Senate), for the relief of Catherine Gunyo Chatterson Odell. -Mr. Macdonald (Pictou). Bill No. 88 (from the Senate), for the relief of Marietta Isabel Wilson.-Mr. Church. Bill No. 89 (from the Senate), for the relief of Marian Eugenie MaeCordick.-Mr. Jacobs. Bill No. 90 (from the Senate), for the relief of Elizabeth Frankland.-Mr. Church. Bill No. 91 (from the Senate), for the relief of Arnold Carrington Burke.-Mr. Church.


IMMIGRATION AND COLONIZATION.


The House in Committee of Supply, Mr. Gordon in the chair: Immigration-Chinese immigration-salaries and contingencies, $60,000.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The minister certainly should explain this item, especially the increase of $25,000. He should also make clear to the committee just what this money is devoted to and how it fits in with the policy as to Chinese immigration, whatever policy it is that the government purposes adopting.

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PRO

Charles Wallace Stewart

Progressive

Hon. CHARLES STEWART (Argen-teuil, Acting Minister of Imigration and Colonization):

One reason for the increase in this item is that now there are 28 employees charged to this appropriation, whereas, only 19 were charged to the appropriation last year, the other nine being charged to the general appropriation.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

What is the general appropriation?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

Their salaries were charged to the vote for the outside service. They are now taken into the Immigration staff, and their salaries charged to the Immigration appropriation. I will give the list of names, as that is possibly the quickest way.

S. N. Reid, maximum $2,160

J. W. Speed, immigration inspector 1,560

A. H. Jones, immigration inspector 1,320

Miss H. G. Parkinson i,H0

A. F. Youngs, immigration inspector.. .. 1,335

Lee S. Yen, immigration interpreter 1,200

Peter Coney, caretaker l ,080

John Earnshaw 1,065

J. C. Kirk, clerk 2,280

G. A. Stevens, departmental accountant

general *

1,980W. C. Taylor, engineer stationary heating.. 1,800H. S. Ferguson, filing clerk

1,080A. E. Allen, clerk stenographer

1,065C. E. Wilson, immigration inspector

1,560Harold Crump, immigration inspector.. .. 1,320Paul Lung, immigration interpreter.. .. 1,260YiP Sing

1200H. W. Wilson, inspector

1,260Edmund Wilson, guard

900A. J. Williams, guard

900W. J. Lowe, caretaker

1,080A. C. Green, elevator operator

885H. Glover, immigration inspector Union Bay 900R. H. Banham

900R. H. Halhed

900

Lee Frank Hong, interpreter, Winnipeg,

Man 200

Wong Ham, Montreal, interpreter 200

A. Regimbal, immigration agent general, Montreal 1 920

This gives a total of $34,540, the number of employees being 28 as against 19 last year. Included in this are the ordinary statutory increases which with the salaries of these extra nine amount to $12,555 over last year's vote. There is also an additional expenditure that has come up since the inception of the Narcotic Drugs Act. The Immigration department are virtually acting as policemen

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after convictions, and their work in this regard has added to the expenses of the Immigration Act. I shall have more to say in regard to these points later. There is a provision in the Immigration Act for registration, but I would prefer to discuss that later. These are items that make up the $25,000 additional.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The salary list read by the minister totalled $34,000; then he says that there is $12,000 in the way of statutory increases this year to be added to that.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

No; my hon. friend misunderstood me. The $12,555 is taken from the general immigration salaries-from the outside salaries-to pay these employees. In other words, this amount of $12,000 odd is included in the $34,000. The increase in the number of employees is nine and the $12,000 goes to pay their salaries.

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March 23, 1923