June 9, 1922

LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

In the interpretation clause of the act I find the following:

(e) "in fee tin uk or contagious disease" includes, in addition to other diseases generally so designated, glanders, farcy, maiadie du colt, pleuro-pneumonia contagiosa, foot and mouth disease, rinderpest, anthrax, Texas fever, hog cholera, swine plague, mange, scab, rabies, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and variola ovina.

About twelve diseases are enumerated, but cattle are not all subject to these diseases.

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PRO

Thomas Wakem Caldwell

Progressive

Mr. CALDWELL:

What diseases are

compensated for in cattle when the animals are destroyed?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Foot and mouth diseases, pleuro-pneumonia and tuberculosis are the three principle ones.

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CON

Simon Fraser Tolmie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TOLMIE:

Tuberculosis is the only disease prevalent in this country of the diseases you mentioned.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

We happen to be free from the other diseases.

Animal Contagious Diseases

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PRO

John Livingstone Brown

Progressive

Mr. BROWN:

Is the indemnity paid in proportion to the value of the animal?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

The indemnity

consists of two-thirds of the various sums mentioned in the bill. If the animal is a 100 per cent animal, two-thirds of the respective amounts is granted. If in the opinion of the inspector, the animal is second, third or fourth rate, the indemnity is paid accordingly.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Is $150 the maximum in the case of a pure bred animal?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

That is the maximum.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

And in any case the man would only get two-thirds of $150?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

The amount would be $100?

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CON
LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

That is right.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Well, take the case of an animal, an eight months' old Shorthorn bull costing $33,000, which was bought in my county and which the former Minister of Agriculture had the honour of christening. In the event of the destruction of an animal of the class all the man gets is $100 regardless of its real value? Is any exception made for high class stock of that kind?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

No. I may say, Mr. Chairman, my staff tried hard, as I did myself to work out some system that would make an exception in the case of animals such as those described by my hon. friend, but the moment you mention a fancy price for a fancy animal it sets everybody on edge. A good many people think their stock should get into that class and it creates a good deal of dissatisfaction. There are so many others in the same category that it would simply mean you would have to make one more maximum. We tried also to give recognition to the animals in the dairy class whose performances we get a record of. You take an animal that would give from 2,000 fx>

2,500 pounds of milk per annum, a young animal we will say five or six years old; it does look as if that one would be worth a higher indemnity; but the difficulties in the way of fixing an amount were such that we had to agree on a flat rate and a reduction in proportion, to the full in price although not quite as much as the animals have fallen in value on the market to-day.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

One other point. In

the case of these very valuable animals, insurance is always carried by the owner against both accidents and disease. Now in the event of the government authority deciding that the animal should be slaughtered, does that void the insurance? Can the minister say that?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I have not looked up the act on that point but I would not imagine that it would affect the insurance one way or the other. I am not sure upon that point, but since we are leaving the bill in committee I will make enquiry and acquaint my hon. friend with the result. My hon. friend from Victoria (Mr. Tolmie) having administered the act must have run up against that feature of it.

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Daniel Duncan McKenzie (Solicitor General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

A valuable animal

such as that mentioned, I think, would be insured, but I do not believe there is anything in the act, although I am not familiar with its terms, as to insurance.

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CON

Simon Fraser Tolmie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TOLMIE:

As far as I know the act has no reference whatever to insurance. I think the insurance is a matter of the owner's own concern.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

In the event of the

animal being slaughtered can the owner collect insurance?

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June 9, 1922