May 12, 1922


On the Orders of the Day:


LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. W. S. FIELDING (Minister of Finance) :

I think I will anticipate the question of the hon. member for West York (Sir Henry Drayton). I almost imagined that he had some reference to the possibility of the Budget. I had the hope

Potlatch Institution

and plan, indeed, that I might fix a date towards the end of the coming week, but to be on the safe side, I propose to fix Tuesday, the 23rd, as the date of the Budget.

Topic:   DATE OF THE BUDGET
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PRIVILEGE-MR. COPP CORRECTION OF REPORT CONCERNING REPARATION CLAIMS


On the Orders of the Day:


LIB

Arthur Bliss Copp (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. A. B. COPP (Secretary of State):

I desire to take this opportunity, as a matter of privilege, of correcting a statement attributed to me in a report appearing in the Montreal Gazette, and possibly in other newspapers throughout the country:

Mr. Copp stated that reparation claims amounting to $22,000,000 had been filed. Some of these claims had already been satisfied.

I desire to state most explicitly that I made no such statement as that, and if hon. members will refer to unrevised Hansard, page 1735, they will see exactly what I did say. I do not, for a moment, suggest that the reporter wilfully made this statement; but I do not want the statement spread broadcast throughout the country, because there have been filed in the department a large number of these claims, none of which has been paid. Those who have filed reparation claims, if some had been paid, would naturally be surprised that all the claims had not been considered at one and the same time. I want to make it clear that no claims have been considered or paid by the department.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE-MR. COPP CORRECTION OF REPORT CONCERNING REPARATION CLAIMS
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POTLATCH INSTITUTION

NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS


On the Orders of the Day:


PRO

John Walter Findlay

Progressive

Mr. J. W. FINDLAY (South Bruce):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Government if they have any further statement to make with regard to the matter, to which I referred a few days ago, of those in British Columbia who are at present taking part in the Indian celebration commonly known as the Potlatch. It will be remembered that, when I brought this matter up the other day, the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) said that he was unable to hear sufficiently what I said to conclude what I was talking about. He suggested that he would confer with the Minister of the Interior (Mr. Stewart) and myself, and let me know what the situation was. I have had, I may say, one or two private conferences with the Minister of 109

the Interior, and it will be remembered that, when I first introduced this question, the reason was that the minister had made a statement in reply to a question placed upon the Order Paper by the hon. member for South Vancouver (Mr. Ladner), and-

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Do I understand that the hon. gentleman intends to put a question?

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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PRO

John Walter Findlay

Progressive

Mr. FINDLAY:

Yes, for information.

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

No debate is permissible on questions on the Orders of the Day.

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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PRO

John Walter Findlay

Progressive

Mr. FINDLAY:

I merely want to know if the Government intend to give me any information as to the situation with regard to those Indians.

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I think I owe my hon. friend an apology for not having given him this information sooner. It was at hand yesterday; the Minister of the Interior had it, and he intended to give the reply in the House yesterday; but he was obliged to leave in the afternoon, and he left the answer with me. I have it here. The position is as follows, according to this statement by the acting deputy Superintendent General:

The reply as prepared for the House contained the particulars with respect to the number of convictions for potlatching and the number of those serving terms of imprisonment as ascertained from Mounted Police reports up to the date of the question as it appeared in the Order Paper. We have just now received-

This is dated May 10:

-from our agent for the Kwawkewlth agency, where these prosecutions have taken place, a report which contains the following paragraph and which I presume is an exact statement of the facts and is somewhat different from the particulars that we have gleaned from the Mounted Police reports: ;

"The principal item of interest during the month of April was the completion of the potlatch prosecutions., Fifty-eight informations had been laid which after being heard resulted in nine dismissals, twenty-three were given suspended sentence, twenty-two were sentenced to two months' imprisonment and four six months' imprisonment. In the case of three of the latter the stay of execution was suspended and an application made for parole.''

Those, I think, are the true facts of the case.

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Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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PRO

John Walter Findlay

Progressive

Mr. FINDLAY:

Do I understand that, at the present time, they are all released except four?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Apparently not. The hon. gentleman will be able to refer to the statement I have read.

Supply-Air Board

Topic:   POTLATCH INSTITUTION
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF INDIANS SERVING GAOL TERMS
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AIR BOARD


The House again in Committee ply, Mr. Gordon in the Chair: of Sup- The Air Board- Salaries $ 75,000Contingencies Canadian Air Force and Civil 17,500Aviation 907,500


LIB

Georges Parent

Liberal

Mr. PARENT:

What does the Civil Aviation consist of?

Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Militia and Defence) : The Civil Aviation consists almost altogether of work done for the other departments, such as fire ranging, work done for other provinces, and survey work.

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May 12, 1922