April 27, 1922

LIB

Hon. Mr. COPP: (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

1. $6,500, based on estimated cost of replacement of landing head, portion of approach and freight shed.

2. O. Dubois, $4.90; Jos. Bertrand, $4.90; Ernest Brabant, $4.90; P. Dubois, $4.90; Charles G. Smith, $4.90; C. Dubois, $4.90; E. Landriault, $4.90; P. Brabant, $2.10.

3. Repairs made, due to damage caused by fire, cost $3,969.13.

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EXCISE TAX ON ALCOHOL,

CON

Mr. HUBBS:

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. Does the Government intend to reduce the excise tax on alcohol to the retail druggists?

2. If so, will the said tax be made the same as that charged the manufacturers at the distillery or bonded warehouse?

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Mr. FIELDING:

Announcement

of such taxation changes as the Government will propose will be made in the Budget speech.

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RAILWAY RATES

LIB

William Costello Kennedy (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Hon. W. C. KENNEDY (Minister of Railways) moved:

That notwithstanding that the regulation of railway rates is a matter within the jurisdiction of the Board of Railway Commissioners, it is advisable that a Select Special Committee be appointed to make inquiry into the question of railway transportation costs, it having been disclosed by recent conferences held between the Government and the chief executives of the various railways with respect to the reduction of freight rates that the representatives of the railways deem it inadvisable immediately to reduce rates on basic commodities because of the expiration, on July 6th, 1922, of the suspension of the Crow's Nest Pass agreement;

That, in the circumstances, it is advisable to afford opportunity to all interested parties to submit their views upon the subject matter of the inquiry to the said committee with particular regard to the effect of the rates established by the Crow's Nest Pass agreement upon Canadian National railways and other lines, as well as upon agricultural development and Canadian industry generally;

And that the said committee shall have power to send for persons, papers and records, including the minutes and evidence taken before the Committees of this House in previous iSes-sions, to examine witnesses under oath, and to report from time to time.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition) :

Mr. Speaker, I do not propose to speak to this motion, but merely to say, I do not think the Government has any right to go on with it this afternoon. This is an important motion

-relative, at least, to anything else on the Order Paper; and, questioned last night as to what the business to-day was to be, the Prime Minister answered:

We will take up the estimates of the Department of Indian Affairs, Mines, and Public Works.

There was no intimation whatever that this motion was to be gone on with. It is unfair to the Opposition-indeed, it is unfair to the House on both sides-that it should be gone on with when it was not mentioned last night.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I agree entirely with my

right hon. friend; that it was not mentioned last night was an oversight. Possibly we might have an understanding now that we proceed with it on Tuesday next.

Motion stands.

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STATEMENT OF PREMIER NORRIS


On the Orders of the Day:


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition) :

I desire to ask

some questions of the Government as to a reported statement by Mr. Norris, Premier of Manitoba, with relation to the subject or railway rates and other matters. In the Montreal Gazette, but as well in many other papers, Mr. Norris is reported to have said at a public meeting, after a rather prolonged sojourn in Ottawa, that the Railway Commission had come to a decision on this subject of railway rates, and he virtually announced what the decision was to be. For exactness, I read very briefly his words:

Important pronouncements were made by the Premier in connection with the freight rates and the natural resources questions.

With respect to freight rates, Premier Norris announced that the fight put up by the provincial government for reduced rates had been successful, and that before the 1922 grain crop began to move a reduction would be effected which would mean an annual saving of approximately $8,000,000 to the province.

Later the quotation is as follows:

Mr. Norris, who returned from Ottawa, a few days ago, reviewed in his address to the convention the fight during the past three years to obtain lower freight rates. Arguments presented to the Railway Commissioners by counsel for the province had resulted in breaking down the railways' case for continuance of what he called present excessive rates.

I am not asking whether this is a correct report of what Mr. Norris said; if, however, the Government desire to make a statement on that, it is for them to decide. Knowing that a provincial election is near

Premier Norris

at hand, I assume for my part that this report as to whajt Mr. Norris said is substantially correct. I ask the Government, assuming it is correct: had Mr. Norris any foundation for the statement? Had he authority to announce a decision of the Railway Commission in regard to the most important question which has come before it since its inception? If so, does the Government believe in the practice of the Railway Commission of announcing its judgments through Liberal politicians?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Mr. Speaker, I confess I cannot see much point in my hon. friend's question, unless it be the implication, in the concluding portion of it, of a political significance in the press report which, probably, could not reasonably be attached to it. I am unable to say whether or not the report which appeared in the press of what Mr. Norris said is correct; Mr. Norris will have to speak for himself on that matter. There has been no official communication between the Government and Mr. Norris on the subject of railway rates.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is not the question. Is it correct, as Mr. Norris is reported to have said, that the Railway Commission has come to a decision? If so, is the decision as Mr. Norris says it is?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I shall have to ask the Railway Commission before I can answer my hon. friend,

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Exactly so. Does the Prime Minister wish to have us understand that, in respect to a subject regarding which the Minister of Railways has a motion on the Order Paper, for the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire into the matter of railway rates, a decision has already been, or may have been, made known to the Prime Minister of Manitoba, although wholly unknown to the Prime Minister of Canada?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Certainly not. No anouneement as to the policy of the Government in this matter will be made until the House has had full opportunity of discussing the resolution of the Minister of Railways and of considering the matter in committee.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is not the question.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I am entitled to an answer.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

No provincial campaign can be carried on here.

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April 27, 1922