April 21, 1922

CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Were the warrants exactly this amount? I do not think so.

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Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) :

The officials inform me the warrants were: $100,000, $50,000 and $16,500. I may say that I know something of the necessity for the last warrant-namely, the unemployment situation was taken into consideration in connection with the construction of the Banff-Windermere road and on that account construction was continued after the appropriation was exhausted.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That was one of the major factors in determining the Government to press on with that work? I listened with pleasure indeed to the minister's defence of the expenditure in connection with these parks. I can remember well when that same duty devolved on me, when I was not treated with quite the same consideration across the floor, when I was told that this expenditure was merely catering to the rich and was really not for the good of the country at all; and in my humble way I had to defend it and say that our parks were an asset for the whole country in that they brought money into Canada. I can remember as well having to adduce figures in an endeavour to show that we really obtained as much profit per acre from the rocks and mountains of our parks as from the wheat fields of Alberta. That, perhaps, would not amount to very much now 'because I have been taught to believe by hon. gentlemen to my left that there is no profit per acre on the wheat fields. Anyway if the one source of revenue fails let

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the other continue. I am grateful that the minister is now able to present to a much more sympathetic audience the case that I presented before.

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Item agreed to. Grant to Alpine Cllub of Canada, $1,000.


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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I really think the minister should not have the heart to ask for this $1,000 for the Alpine Club in the absence of the hon. member for Brome (Mr. McMaster).

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I recall the battle that he waged in this House year after year- waged against heavy odds and with considerable support around him-to save the suffering people of this country from this awful imposition of a thousand dollars- a thousand dollars that he saw passing from the treasury into the pockets of the rich and the powerful to enable them to enjoy the scenery of the Alps of Canada assisted by the hard earned savings of the people of this country. The hon. member is absent to-night but I know it could not have been by intention, because even this session I find that the memory of the filching from the treasury that had been done by this Alpine Club has not passed from him. I can recall weM that he reminded me of it only about two weeks ago; but here when there is opportunity to save the nation from this imposition he is absent from his duty. I will not, I am sure, appeal to the minister in vain when I ask him just to let this item stand in order that the House may be treated once more to the lugubrious eloquence of the hon. member for Brome.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) :

I also have a recollection of being attacked on a similar vote in the legislature of the province from which I come, and knowing the sympathetic mind and heart of the right hon. gentleman I am sure he will agree to allow this item to pass realizing what we have both suffered in the past in this connection.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Are none of the other critics going to speak at all?-because the hon. member for Brome was not alone.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Oh no, my recollection is much more intimate than that of the

Minister of Marine and Fisheries. I am sure that the hon. member for Laprairie and Napierville (Mr. Lanctot) was one of his coadjutors and I see him now in his seat.

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CON

Item agreed to. Seed Grain Advances-Amount required to meet uncollected portions of advances of seed grain made in the Western provinces by the chartered banks to holders of unpatented Dominion lands under the guarantee of the Dominion Government, aJlso including commission payable to banks for collections, fees to secretary treasurers of municipalities and officers of the provincial departments of agriculture, clerical assistance, travelling expenses, etc., $200,000.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I presume the method that was installed about three years ago is being continued by the minister-the method of guaranteeing the banks up to a narrow margin of interest, giving them an incentive to collect this money themselves? Also, how much of the vote of $500,000 last year was actually spent? I know it was absolutely impossible to judge how much we should need?

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Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) :

Two hundred thousand dollars.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

About the amount being asked this year. I think the minister will, if he has looked into the matter, be able to report to the committee that this method has saved the country very large sums of money and has proved efficient, effective, and economical, meeting the situation in every way.

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Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) :

I thoroughly agree with what the right hon. gentleman has said. So far as I have been able to learn it is the most economical method of dealing with the situation.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That, I presume, will be read by the critics of long ago who are absent or inert to-night.

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April 21, 1922