June 4, 1921

L LIB

Henri-Edgar Lavigueur

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LAVIGUEUR:

Is the minister

aware that the Director of Park St. Charles was in the county of Yamaska at the last election?

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I never heard of it. I have heard a lot about the Yamaska election, and the country will hear a lot about

it yet, and if I was hon. gentlemen opposite I would say very little about it. I was not in the county of Yamaska and had nothing at all to do with the election, although I think many hon. gentlemen opposite, including my hon. friend himself, was there.

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L LIB
CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

He was there in spirit.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

He must have been about the only one who was not, because I understand that hon. gentlemen opposite flooded the county in scores, and we have records of some of their speeches.

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L LIB

Jacques Bureau

Laurier Liberal

Mr. BUREAU:

You cannot find anything, and you are disappointed.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Not very much that is of value; there was not very much in them, certainly nothing about the Liberal platform, certainly nothing about any issue that is before this House and the country.

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L LIB

Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Does the Prime Minister want to discuss this matter before prorogation? He is welcome, if he does.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

We are not in a bit

more hurry than hon. gentlemen opposite. This matter was introduced by my hon. friend. But no matter who was there, what I say is that the Yamaska election has no more to do with this than the election in South Africa. I say a solution is now at hand. The hon. member for Maisonneuve has said that there was fraud, that there was collusion between the parties, and that this is a land grab and a steal, and he will be able to establish it.

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L LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

Like the Belanger case.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do not know anything about the Belanger case.

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L LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

I saved you from it.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I am not saying the

hon. gentleman did not. I do not know a thing about it. Let this case stand on its own merits. We will get hack to that other one when the hon. gentleman is tired of this one. The hon. gentleman says that there was fraud and collusion. I do not know whether or not we ought to appeal to the Privy Council. The lay officers of the Crown are the best judges of that, but if there is fraud or collusion the Government of Canada will be able to find some way to avoid paying that money. The hon. gentleman has undertaken to show it but I do not know whom he attributes it to-to both parties, I assume, and the judges too,

because there could not be fraud and the case come all the way through the arbitration and three courts and no judges find it unless they were parties to it. But where-ever it is, if the hon. gentleman establishes fraud and collusion we will find a way out and we will give him an opportunity to establish it. I will ask the Minister of Marine -and Fisheries to withdraw the estimate and we will expect the hon. member for Maisonneuve to make good the words he has stated to this House this afternoon. We will expect him to establish the very violent charges he has made, and those who have to do with the transaction, be they the bar or bench, or the parties to the case, will have a right to look to him to make good the allegations he has offered against them. A full opportunity will be given to him, and now it is for him to act.

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L LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

I will forget the violence of the language of my right hon. friend and tell him that I admire his desire to serve in the present instance the best interests of the country. In dropping that item he has at last done a very useful thing for his country, and when next session comes-perhaps before-I will be in a position to establish to the right hon. gentleman and to Parliament that there has been fraud in this matter from beginning to end.

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UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Mr. MEIGHEN:

We will expect the hon. gentleman to do it sooner than that. We would like to know, because if these people are entitled to their money they ought to have it. It is for him to establish by indisputable evidence before the department his charges of fraud and collusion in regard to this matter and we will provide the opportunity for him to do it.

Item withdrawn.

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L LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

Let me congratulate

once more my right hon. friend and the country too.

Resolution reported and concurred in.

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WAYS AND MEANS-THE SUPPLY BILL


On the motion of Sir Henry Drayton (Minister of Finance) the House went into Committee of Ways and Means, Mr. Boivin in the Chair.


CON

Henry Lumley Drayton (Secretary of State of Canada; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON moved:

Resolved, that towards making good the Supply granted to his Majesty, on account of certain expenses of the Public Service for the

financial year ending March SI, 1922, the sum of $371,044,471.26 he granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of Canada.

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June 4, 1921