June 1, 1921

JUDGES ACT AMENDMENT


Right Hon. C. J. DOHERTY (Minister of Justice) presented the report of the Free Conference with the managers of the Senate with respect to Bill No. 60, to amend the Judges Act. He said: I beg to move that the amendment agreed to in the Free Conference to the Bill to amend the Judges Act be considered and agreed to, and that a message be sent to the Senate to acquaint their honours therewith. I make this motion with a great deal of reluctance. I feel very strongly that it would have been much wiser to deal with the matter in a manner that would have afforded greater opportunity for consideration. It is more than doubtful whether the proposed amendment will meet the purpose of those who have made it, but it is a very much less sweeping provision than was originally embodied in the amendments of the Senate. I think that, in view of the importance of the Bill, the wisest course is to acquiesce in this action of their honours. In saying this I believe I am expressing the views of the other gentlemen who were acting as managers on behalf of the House of Commons. ,


UNION

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Unionist

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am not altogether sure that this procedure may not be somewhat out of order, inasmuch as no notice has been given. I assume, however, that at this period of the session, and in view of the nature of the report of the conference, there will be no objection to the motion.

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Motion agreed to.


FUEL SUPPLY

UNION

Michael Steele

Unionist

Mr. MICHAEL STEELE (South Perth) moved:

That the evidence taken from day to day during the current session by the Special Committee appointed to consider the future fuel

supply of Canada be indexed and issued in pamphlet form to the number of 1,000, and that Rule 74, relating thereto, be suspended; and further, that the distribution of such copies be and is assigned to the clerk of the committee, who is hereby instructed to cause them to be forwarded to educational institutions, public libraries, boards of trade, boards of commerce, and such other public bodies as may desire them.

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UNION

Michael Steele

Unionist

Mr. STEELE:

I understand there is an unwritten rule that a certain proportion of such copies shall be printed in French. If not, it could be specified in the motion.

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Henri Sévérin Béland

Laurier Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

It is generally stated in the motion that so many copies shall be printed in English, and so many in French.

Mr. MEIGHEN t The proportion is 700 to 300.

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UNION

Michael Steele

Unionist

Mr. STEELE:

In view of the fact that the provinces most interested in the coal situation are English-speaking provinces, perhaps a lesser percentage of French copies will be sufficient.

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INCOME TAX ACT CONSOLIDATION


Hon. Sir HENRY DRAYTON (Minister of Finance) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 221, to consolidate the Income Tax Act. He said: The question regarding the income tax amendments has been brought before the House several times, and I have promised to bring down legislation dealing with the subject of penalties. The last time the matter was under consideration the question was raised as to whether we were going into the whole question at the present. time in view of the fact that some amendments which were contemplated were more or less controversial. I stated that under the circumstances it was my opinion that what ought to be done now was to reduce our penalties somewhat. The purpose of the penalties, I am glad to say, has largely disappeared. The collection of income taxes in , every country is more or less difficult, and hon. gentlemen have pointed out that our collections in the past h%ve not been nearly as good as the collections in other countries; and Australia and New Zealand were mentioned as particular illustrations of this fact. I desire to give to the House some figures in connection with the proposal I now make to reduce our penalties. I shall not give the odd numbers. In Canada, the first year we had an income tax collection, we gathered $9,000,000; that was in the year 1917. Australia's first year was 1915. She, of course, has a much larger urban population than Canada, and her collection for that first year amounted to $18,000,000- double ours. New Zealand's first year was 1891, and her initial collection was $327,000. In our second year, we collected $20,000,000, while Australia in her second year collected $27,000,000, and New Zealand, $366,- 000. Our third year amounted to $46,000,000, Australia's third year to $34,000,000, and New Zealand's third year to $437,- 000. There is also an interesting matter in connection with the collection of taxes in the different countries, something which illustrates the effect of the generous exemptions granted in Canada. We find that for the first year the general average of the taxation in Canada was $200 per ratepayer paying taxes, and in Australia it was $76. In the second year in Canada the amount was $207, and in Australia $105. The third year in Canada the amount was $244 as against $110 in Australia. I think, Mr. Speaker, the House will also be pleased to know how we are getting along with collections of the current year. The collections for this year have been very gratifying. Since the closing of the books of the last fiscal year, and under assessment on and by the ratepayers themselves for the first time the sum of roughly $39,000,000 has already been collected to date. Motion agreed to and Bill read the first time.


QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


CIVIL SERVICE - CLASSIFICATION AND REORGANIZATION

L LIB

John Howard Sinclair

Laurier Liberal

Mr. SINCLAIR (Guysborough) :

What is the gross amount paid to Arthur Young and Company and to Griffenhagen and Company for their services in connection with the classification and organization of the Civil Service from the date when Arthur Young and Company were first employed in 1918 up to the

30th of April, 1921, including transportation, living expenses, and all other outlay of every description ?

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Hon. Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

1. $158,333.49 made up as follows: (a) classifying service and reorganizing staff and office procedure, $51,199.83; (b) fitting classification to personnel Post Office Department, $6,260.11; (c) fitting classification to remaining personnel, $63,106.25; (d) bonus work, $4,078.18; (e) reorganization Department Public Printing and Stationery, $33,689.12. The above figures cover the period inclusive from August, 1918, when the Arthur Young Company were first employed, until October, 1920, when their contract with the Civil Service Commission ceased. The gross amount paid to Griffenhagen & Company up to April 30, 1921, was $113,603.08.

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June 1, 1921