April 21, 1921


firearm, or any air gun or any device or contrivance for muffling or stopping the sound of the report of any firearm, without having a permit therefor, which permit may be issued in the same manner, by the same persons, and as near as may be in the same form, as in the case of the other permits referred to in this section; provided that no British subject shall be required to obtain a permit with respect to any shot-gun now owned by him; The effect of that was to compel every one who had a rifle, revolver, or a weapon of any kind in his house to go to the chief of police and obtain a permit. Now in some sparsely settled parts of this country the chief of police may be sixty or a hundred miles away. It also meant that a citizen of Toronto or any other large centre- places in which so many of these burglaries and hold-ups were taking place-who had a weapon in his house must get a permit from the chief of police. Furthermore, any city, town or village to which had been donated a cannon by the Government had to obtain a permit for that,-they have had to get permits for cannons that were used at Sebastopol and Louisburg; I suppose they have had to get permits even for the cannons in the embrasures at Quebec. Now, I do not think it was the intention of Parliament to put a provision of that kind on the statute book. It is not only absurd in that respect,' but people have very often been compelled to pay from 50 cents to $5 for these permits, though the Act did not anticipate that any charge would be made. Furthermore, I think it is a very grave hardship that a man who has a military rifle and wants to shoot should have to get a permit. The intent of the present Bill is to strike out that clause of last year's Act and restore the law as it stood on the statute book in 1919, providing that aliens alone shall come under the rule. I think we can trust Canadians in this country. This is not Ireland; we have no rebellions or troubles of any kind here, and it is a reflection on Canadian citizens to have a law of that kind as one of our statutes.


LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

Under the law for 1919,

were all British subjects permitted to own firearms of any description?

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Subtopic:   ALIENS AND FIREARMS AND OTHER WEAPONS
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UNION
LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

So that the effect of the amendment is to restore the law as it was?

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Subtopic:   ALIENS AND FIREARMS AND OTHER WEAPONS
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UNION

John Allister Currie

Unionist

Mr. CURRIE:

Let me read the proposed amendment.

1. Paragraph (aa) of Section 2 of Chapter 43 of the Statutes of 1920 is repealed and the following substituted therefor;

(aa) "being an alien, has in his possession any pistol, rifle, shot-gun, revolver, firearm or offensive weapon without having permit therefor which permit may be issued in the same manner by the same persons and as near as [DOT]may be in the same form as in the case of the other permits referred to in this section (1919 2 Sess., C 12).

That does not touch the Canadian or British subject; it leaves them the same privilege they have enjoyed for the last century.

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Motion agreed to, and Bill read the first time.


QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk).


BLOOD INDIAN RESERVE

L LIB

Mr. MOLLOY:

Laurier Liberal

1. (a) Did the Indian Department in 1919 sell some of the Blood Indian cattle to save them from starvation? (b) If so, how many, to whom were they sold and (c) at what price per pound? "

2. (a) What was the total price received for said cattle, (b) where were they delivered, (c) w>ho paid the freight from the Blood Reserve, and (d) how many, if any, died on the road?

3. After gathering the cattle for that shipment and sale, how long were they held and fed before being shipped?

4. How many hundred loads of hay were fed to the said cattle, and from what supply was the hay taken ?

5. How much did the net receipts from the sale of these cattle exceed the replacement value of the hay fed to them while awaiting orders to ship?

Hon. Mr. .TOLMIE:

1. (a) Yes, 591; (b) Gordon, Ironside & Fares, 590; 1 sold at Cardston; (c) 50 at 5 cents per lb., f.o.b., Moose Jaw; 534 at 51 cents per lb., f.o.b., Moose Jaw; 6 cripples for $37.58; 1 sold for $50.

2. (a) $20,643.56 net; (b) 432 delivered Gordon, Ironside & Fares, Moose Jaw; 157 delivered Gordon Ironside & Fares, Rush Lake, 1 sold at Cardston; (c) Gordon Ironside & Fares; (d) 5 died on the road.

3. Started to round up at reserve November 24, but not all rounded up until first week in December. Held on average two weeks. Shipped December 15. Arrived at destination December 18.

4. About 100 tons. Supply from haj bought by Indian Department fron Indians on Reserve at cost of $8 to $10 pe) ton.

5. $18,643.56.

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Subtopic:   BLOOD INDIAN RESERVE
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CON

Mr. WHITE:

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. How many Blood Indian cattle did the Indian Department in 1919 remove by rail from the Blood Reserve to the Stony Reserve in Alberta to save them from starvation?

2. On what date were these cattle gathered for shipment and on what date were they shipped?

3. What was the quantity and replacement value of the hay fed to them while awaiting shipment?

4. What did it cost in transportation expenses to remove these cattle from the Blood Reserve to the IStony Reserve and return?

5. What was the total amount of expenses charged against them at Stony Reserve? -

6. On what date and how many of these cattle were returned to the Blood Reserve, excluding calves born at the Stony Reserve?

7. What was the total cost of this operation from the time the gathering of the cattle began to their return to the Blood Reserve?

8. What portion of that amount was charged directly or indirectly to the Blood Indians and to what account or accounts?

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UNION

Hon. Mr. TOLMIE: (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

1. 419.

2. Started to round up at reserve November 24, but not all rounded up until first week in December. Shipped December 15.

3. About 50 tons. $1,000.

4. $877.50.

5. $2,938.55.

6. Returned on August 14 and 20; 251 cattle were returned.

7. $4,316.05.

8. All this expenditure was charged to the trust fund account of the Blood Indians, to which the revenue arising from grazing leases was credited.

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CON

Mr. WHITE:

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. Is it true that the thoroughbred bull herd on the Blood Reserve was recfuced from 66 in the fall of 1919 to 8 survivors in the following spring? If so, what happened to the rest of them? If not, what are the correct figures?

2. Was a memorial presented to the Superintendent General of Indian Affairs on May 31 last on behalf of the Blood Indians and, (a) was It therein charged that the losses of the Indian cattle and horses were due to the maladministration of their reserve by the department's officers, and (b) was the Government therein requested to have said charge investigated by a commission with court powers?

3. What action was taken by the Government on said memorial during the eight months following its presentation?

4. Has the Government yet replied to the said memorial of the Blood Indians?

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UNION

Hon. Mr. TOLMIE: (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

1. Sixty bulls were on hand in September, 1919; 36 old and useless bulls were sold; proceeds used to buy younger stock; 22 died.

2. Yes.

3. Its subject matter was investigated by the officers of the department.

4. Yes.

CAjNADIAN national, railways-

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ST. ALEXIS

L LIB

Mr. MARCIL (Bonaventure):

Laurier Liberal

1. Have any requests been received for enlarging the station or erecting raised platforms

at St. Alexis railway station in the county of Bonaventure?

2. What action, if any, has been taken in the matter? If no action, why the delay?

3. Have any portions of said station grounds been leased to one Arsenault, Blaquiere and Arsenault, or Ludger Gallant, or any other parties, to the exclusion of the public for any purposes whatever?

4. If so, will the management of the Canadian National Railways inquire if this is in the public interest?

5. If not in the public interest, will said lease

be cancelled? ,

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Subtopic:   ST. ALEXIS
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UNION

Hon. Mr. REID (Grenville): (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Unionist

1. Applications received locally in August, 1919, for loading platform.

2. Work not started on account large amount of other and more important work elsewhere. In 1920 work was deferred for same reason.

3. Application received from Joseph A. Arsenault and Ludger J. Gallant to lease land on which to erect storage warehouses. Matter was approved and leases now being completed. No other applications for leasing land received.

4. Not considered to be detrimental to public interest, or that patrons of railway will be inconvenienced in any manner.

5. If railway finds buildings interfere with efficient handling of its business, leases will be cancelled. Buildings are only of a temporary nature.

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Subtopic:   ST. ALEXIS
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HIGHWAY GRANTS

L LIB

Mr. PREVOST:

Laurier Liberal

1. What are the names of the eleven highways in the province of Quebec which, according to information supplied by the Minister of Railways, and published in Hansard of April 14, 1921, have received or are to receive federal grants under the authority of the Highways Act?

2. What sum has been paid to date in connection with each of the eleven highways?

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Subtopic:   HIGHWAY GRANTS
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UNION

Hon. Mr. REID (Grenville) : (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Unionist

1. Answered by reply to Mr. Tobin's question, page 2428, unrevised Hansard, for Wednesday, April 20.

2. Payment of $56,374.19 has been made on Montreal-Quebec Highway. Accounts connected with other highways now being audited for payment of grant.

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Subtopic:   HIGHWAY GRANTS
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April 21, 1921