March 17, 1921

UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

My experience in this

House has not been as lengthy as that of the hon. member for South Oxford, and perhaps I have been unable to explain myself sufficiently but I have heard no objection from any other member in that particular regard.

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Mr. CHAIRMAN@

Shall the item carry?

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

No, Mr. Chairman, before leaving the item I think we might well learn something about the men who are at present in the service of the government before we place the power in the hands of the minister to have a lot more inspectors appointed through the Civil Service Commission, without any well defined knowledge as to what their qualifications are. I notice in the Public Accounts that there are a great many of these men who are receiving, I shall not say very high salaries, but very good stipends, and a bonus>

is also given to most of them. I would like to know from the minister whether or not it is intended to have this bonus continued. The bonus was given a few years ago as a "war" bonus and a great

many of these men did not go to the war. The word "war" was afterwards omitted and the grant called a straight bonus. I now wonder if that bonus is going to be perpetuated, and I would therefore ask how much of this proposed expenditure is for bonus and how much for straight salary.

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

The bonus will end on the 31st, March and after that date these officers will be treated in the same way as other civil servants.

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

Does the item provide for the payment of the bonus or does it not?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

No, Mr. Chairman, it

does not.

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

It covers the

amount that is in the Estimates for the present year? _

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

Yes it does.

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Georges Henri Boivin (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Laurier Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Shall the item carry?

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

I notice there have been payments made for hogs slaughtered in a great many other cases. I observe that payment has been made for hogs slaughtered in the case of W. Reid of Brampton and F. Staggs of Brockville, the amount being $3,256.56. What inspectors examined those hogs and how wide-spread was the disease? Was there more evidence of disease in those cases than there was in the other instance to which I have drawn attention? Could the minister give us any information as to the extent of the disease in the herds where these large amounts were paid?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

I regret that I aril unable to give that information off-hand.

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L LIB

John Patrick Molloy

Laurier Liberal

Mr. MOLLOY:

What are the minimum

and maximum salaries of inspectors at the present time?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

$1,800 and $2,000.

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John Patrick Molloy

Laurier Liberal

Mr. MOLLOY:

The amount of $1,800

is the minimum?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

Yes, sir.

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

How many of

these inspectors have been receiving bonuses?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

All of them.

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

How many new

inspectors do you propose appointing under the increased vote?

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UNION

Simon Fraser Tolmie (Minister of Agriculture)

Unionist

Mr. TOLMIE:

I did not hear your question.

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UNION

Donald Sutherland

Unionist

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

I am not often accused of whispering in this House, and I think I spoke loud enough for any one not afflicted with ear trouble to gather the purport of my question. My request was to know how many inspectors you purpose-

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March 17, 1921