I must point out that questions concerning the establishment or re-establishment of demonstration farms have already been ruled out of order on this item. If any question concerning the expenditure of the Department of
Agriculture may be asked on item No. 14, the entire discussion can be started over and over again every time the Estimates of the Department of Agriculture are before the committee. Item No. 14 which we are now considering deals solely with Civil Government expenditure here in th>
city of Ottawa. I would not call an hon. member to order for discussing upon it any matter concerning agriculture that is not specially covered by another Estimate, but where there are specific items in the Estimates I would ask hon. members to wait until they are reached before discussing matters pertaining to them.
On page 89 of the Estimates there are two items: "Veterinary Director General, $5,040" and "Chief Veterinary Inspector, $3,900." I understand that these are two separate positions occupied by two different men. I should like to know when the office of Chief Veterinary Inspector was established, where the official lives, and what his duties are?
The name of that officer is Dr. George Hilton. He resides in Ottawa and has occupied the position for about 12 or 14 years, roughly speaking. This particular office was created before I became minister; I cannot say how long it has been in existence. The duties of the office are to assist the Veterinary Director' General, and to act in his absence when he is out of town. Dr. Hilton assists in a great deal of the outside work at the various quarantine ports, and in connection with the field inspection work that is carried on throughout Canada.
The Department of Agriculture has no illustration stations in the province of Ontario. The Commission of Conservation has been carrying on some work along that line, and so long as thev were doing that the department did not interfere. The proposed changes will perhaps result in a new policy in that direction. We have 30 illustration stations in the province of Quebec at the present time.
Before this item passes I should like to satisfy my curiosity with respect to one statement made by the minister in his very eloquent and inter-
esting remarks a few moments ago. He stated that years ago hens in this country were producing 65 eggs per year, and that now in some cases they are producing 300 per year. That is very important, I think, and I should like the minister to tell the committee, so that the country at large will know, what special strain it is that produces this large number of eggs per year.
that made the big record was a special strain of Wyandottes at the Sidney Experimental station, 16 miles out of Victoria, B.C. The average hen in this country at the presefit time has been producing 60 and 65 egg's per year.
May I ask whether this item of $1,245,639 includes the minimum grant of $2,500 which the agricultural societies are entitled to receive in connection with the exhibitions in the different provinces. I understand the regulations of the department provides for these grants.