April 28, 1920

L LIB

Mr. GERVAIS:

Laurier Liberal

1. Have any materials consisting of scrap iron and steel, belonging to the Government at

its shipyard at Sorel, been sold during the month of October, 1918?

2. If so, in what quantity (in tons)?

3. At what price per ton?

4. To whom have these materials been sold?

5. At what dates were the payments made to the G-overnment?

6. What is the total amount received by the Government?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   SALE OF SCRAP IRON AND STEEL.
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UNION

Hon. Mr. BALLANTYNE: (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Unionist

1. Yes, scrap belonging to the Imperial Government.

2. 39 long tons, 584 lbs.

3. $25.

4. Napoleon Latraverse.

5. 14th November, 1919.

6. $989.84.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   SALE OF SCRAP IRON AND STEEL.
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MR. CALIXTE VANDAL.

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Mr. GEEVAIS:

1. Is Calixte Vandal in the employ of the Government at its shipyard at Sorel?

2. Is it the same Calixte Vandal who was dismissed in 1914 after an inquiry held hy Mr. J. G. Desbarats?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   MR. CALIXTE VANDAL.
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UNION

Hon. Mr. BALLANTYNE: (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Unionist

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   MR. CALIXTE VANDAL.
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DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION.

L LIB

Mr. SINCLAIR (Antigonish and Guys-borough):

Laurier Liberal

1. On what date and under what authority was the Department of Public Information authorized?

2. How long did it continue?

3. How many employees did this department have on its pay-roll just prior to the 31st of December 1919. when this department was discontinued, and what was the gross monthly amount of such pay-roll for the month of December, 1919?

4. How many of these employees were continued in the service of the Government in any capacity and what was the gross amount of the salaries or wages paid to such employees so continued for the month of March, 1920?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION.
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UNION

Hon. Mr. ROWELL: (Minister presiding over the Department of Health; President of the Privy Council)

Unionist

1. The office of Director of Public Information was created by Order in Council, November 9, 1917. The work was enlarged by Order in Council September 12, 1918.

2. December 31, 1919.

3. The staff of the department was gradually reduced during 1919 with a view to closing out its work. In February of that year 25 persons were employed with salaries off $3,101.64 per month. In December when the department was discontinued 13 persons were employed with salaries of $1,862.80 per month.

4. For the Information Branch of the Department of External Afiairs, 6; salaries for March, $981.66. Employed in other Government services, 4; three of whom are paid

a total of $180 per month. The fourth is employed in the Department of Public Health and classification is not yet available.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION.
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BOARD OF COMMERCE.

LIB

*Mr. CASGRAIN:

Liberal

1. How many investigations have been held by the Board of Commerce since its formation?

2. How many orders and decisions were given by said board?

3. How many sentences or fines were imposed?

4. What are the names of the persons who were so sentenced or fined?

5. What are the costs of such investigations?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   BOARD OF COMMERCE.
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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER :

The Board of

Commerce does not make any return of its orders and investigations to any department of the Government, but matters concerned therewith will appear in some form in the report which the Board of Commerce will make to the Government.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   BOARD OF COMMERCE.
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THE ARTHUR YOUNG COMPANY.

L LIB

Charles Arthur Gauvreau

Laurier Liberal

Mr. GAUVREAU:

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1. What are the names of the so-called experts employed by the Arthur Young Company to classify the employees of the various departments, and which department or departments did each such expert classify?

2. What are the ages, nationality, educational, and practical qualification, including positions previously held, with special reference to classification work, of each such experts?

3. (a) What is the cost to the Government for the services of each such expert; (b) what is the cost to the Arthur Young Company of the services of each expert? Have they been paid in Canadian or American money?

4. How many deputy ministers have approved the classification of their departments?

5. Does the Arthur Young Company pay an income or business tax in Canada?

6. In case the difference of opinion respecting classification between the so-called experts' and the Civil Service Commission, whose opinion prevails?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE ARTHUR YOUNG COMPANY.
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UNION

Arthur Lewis Sifton (Secretary of State of Canada)

Unionist

Rt. Hon. Mr. SIFTON:

I. The members of the organization of Arthur Young and Company who have had to do with the classification work on which the ^irm has been retained to assist the Civil Service Commission, include the following: Messrs. Griffenhagen, Myers, Telford, Goodell, Smith, Farwell, Fleming, Grove, Beckman, Robinson, Calkins, Hering, Hoehne, Hersly, Coe, Nelson, Reynolds, Barth, Millerson, Quinn, Nilsen, Bailey, Reber, Gusler, Matthers, Messick and Howard. Some of these gave only a few days, others have given a number of months, to the work.

No departments were classified by individuals. The firm, under the direction

of the Civil Service Commission, assigned its staff representatives to certain occupations, trades, services, or professions, as the exigencies of the work required. All final recommendations regarding classification were then passed upon by the firm's chief representatives and finally by the Civil Service Commission.

2. The commission is not informed as to the data requested by this question. Before employing the firm, however, it ascertained that this firm had the only staff on the continent engaged in this special work and that it had long experience and high professional standing in the employment field in both public and private services. Members of this same staff have been engaged on the classification of the federal service of the United States, city of Montreal, city of Baltimore, state of Illinois, city of Chicago, county of Cook, city of Milwaukee, county of Milwaukee, state of New Jersey and other public, quasi-public and private enterprises. The commission is notified that this same staff has just been chosen, after a thorough-going investigation as the only one qualified to classify and standardize the service of the city of Philadelphia -a city of over two million.

3. (a) The Government has not paid for the services of each expert although the fees to the company have been based on the number of days put in by certain members of the staff. Other members of the staff have served on the work without their time being taken into account in the reckoning.

(b) The commission is not informed as to the arrangements between the firm and the members of its organization.

During the first several months of the period of their engagement the firm was paid in American money but since May, 1919, payments have been made in Canadian money. Inasmuch as during this latter period the rate of exchange had been high-at times being more than fifteen per cent-the firm's margin of profit has been absorbed.

4. Discussions on disputed points in connection with the application of the classification have been held as between the Civil Service Commission and the deputy ministers of seventeen departments, and the commission has made decisions in connection with sixteen of these and has issued official lists of classification titles. In no one of these departments does the deputy minister approve the classification of every position. The commission does not feel that this is proof of inaccurate classification; indeed it feels that if it were to agree with the wishes of every department it would not be fulfilling its duty as expressed in the law, namely, that of providing a uniform standard classification as between departments. .

5. The commission understands that the firm has followed the rulings of Mr. R. W. Breadner, Commissioner of Taxation, with regard to the filing of income tax returns. These returns are, of course not open to the commission.

6. The Civil Service Commission made the classification and is now engaged in making the application of the classification. The firm of Arthur Young and Company has been retained to handle the technical work. No official decisions can be or have been made except by the Civil Service Commission.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE ARTHUR YOUNG COMPANY.
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QUESTION'S PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS.

L LIB

Mr. DECHENE:

Laurier Liberal

1. How many private, assistant private, joint and associate secretaries have been appointed to members of the Cabinet, chairman or members of commission since 1911, and how much money has been paid to each of them respectively ?

2. How many private, assistant private, joint and associate secretaries have each of the members of the Cabinet actually?

3. What are their names and respective salaries?

4. How many employees in the office of each member of the -Cabinet, their names and respective salaries?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   QUESTION'S PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS.
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L LIB

Mr. WHITE (Victoria):

Laurier Liberal

1. What was the cost to Canada of the stone building used at 'Calgary as a post office, and which was torn down- eight or nine years ago?

2. At what date was this post office building torn down?

3. What did it cost to tear it down and remove the debris?

4. To whom, and at what price was the material which had been used in the construction of it sold?

5. How many different departments of the Government occupied the building before it was torn down?

6. What are the names of the said departments?

7. From whom has the Government acquired accommodation for the different departments since they vacated the post office building?

8. How much has the Government paid for fitting up and equipping each of the different buildings to which the different departments transferred from time to time since the post office building was torn down?

9. How much has been paid for architects' fees and superintendence in respect of the tearing down of the post office and fitting and equipping the other buildings to which the different departments formerly occupying the post office building transferred- as aforesaid?

10. How much has it cost the different departments to move from building to building from time to time?

11. What rental has the Government paid from the time the post office building' was torn down to this date to house the different departments that formerly occupied the said post office building?

12. To whom were such rentals paid?

13. ^ What was the estimated cost of the new building at the time the old building was torn down ?

il4. What is the present estimated cost of the proposed new building?

15. In what years and in what amounts each year did the Estimates provide for the building of a new post office in Calgary in lieu of the post office which has been torn down as aforesaid?

16. What rentals are now being paid for the space presently occupied by each of the different departments which formerly occupied the post office building which was torn down as aforesaid, and fo whom are these different rentals being paid?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   QUESTION'S PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS.
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CANADIAN REPRESENTATIVE AT WASHINGTON.


On the Orders of the Day: Hon. H. jS. BELAND (Beauce): I should like to ask whether the Government has any announcement to make in connection with the contemplated representation of Canada at Washington; whether negotiations have been proceeding with either the British or the American Government, and if, so, what point they have reached and whether any definite conclusion has been arrived at?


CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

These negotiations are proceeding, but it is not possible to make a definite announcement yet.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   CANADIAN REPRESENTATIVE AT WASHINGTON.
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April 28, 1920