November 8, 1919

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Mr. A. K. MAOLEAN@

But I am referring to the resolution.

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

The minister tells me the Bill was introduced several days ago when it was not introduced until last night.

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Mr. A. K. MAOLEAN@

It is quite true the first reading of the Bill took place yesterday, but the House had intimation of the purpose of the legislation several days ago, and I assumed that what interested my hon. friend was the subject matter of the Bill. It does not matter very much whether the Bill was introduced yesterday or not if the House several days ago had notice of the subject matter.

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

At all events, I was not aware of that resolution, for reasons which my hon. friend knows, and this Bill has only been before the House since yesterday. I repeat that this is a very important Bill and I ask that its consideration should be postponed. I have another reason for making this request. I am informed by certain members that the hon. gentleman himself gave them the assurance that this Bill would not be proceeded with this session.

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

That is not correct.

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

I have given the hon. gentleman the statement that was made to me-

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

No hon. member was given that assurance. ^

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

-and a deputation of pilots from the St. Lawrence districts came to Ottawa yesterday and had an interview with the officers of the department. It was then agreed that nothing would be done to press this matter before the session of 1920. I say that at the end of the session called for the purpose of ratifying the Peace Treaty, which was quite unnecessary for us to do, it is absurd for us to try and proceed with such legislation as this.

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

What is my hon. friend's objection?

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

My objection is that I have not had time or opportunity to study the Bill, and therefore it is

obvious-

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

I can answer my hon. friend definitely if he will state his objection to the Bill.

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

I want to consider the Bill and study it and then I will give my objection.

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

I think my hon. friend can study it in two minutes or less.

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Alexander Kenneth Maclean (Minister Without Portfolio)

Unionist

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

Will my hon.

friend state his objection to the Bill?

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Ernest Lapointe

Laurier Liberal

Mr. ERNEST LAPOINTE:

I would not

do justice to my electors nor to the mandate which I have received if I were to agree to what my hon. friend asks me to do.

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Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Unionist

Mr. SPEAKER:

I would point out that

the hon. member for Halifax (Mr. A. K. Maclean) is exercising his right now in closing the debate.

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Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Laurier Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

It would be quite in

keeping with everything about this Bill, and the procedure which has been followed with respect to it, as well as in keeping with many other transactions of the Government of which he is a member, for the hon. gentleman (Mr. A. K. Maclean) to immediately exercise that right and thus shut out everybody else from saying a word on the subject. We only received copies of this Bill a few minutes ago, and now we are told that the hon. gentleman, from the abundance of his knowledge in shipping and seafaring, must exercise his right to say all that can possibly be said about it, and so shut us out from uttering a word in regard to it.

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Mr. A. K. MAOLEAN@

Will my hon.

friend permit me to interrupt him? It is only fair that I should first say a few words in explanation of the purpose of the Bill, and then leave the matter open for discussion.

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November 8, 1919