July 5, 1919


Motion agreed to, and Bill read the second time. The House thereupon went into Committee on the Bill, Mr. Boivin in the Chair. On section 2-Act to apply to by-elections except for Yukon:


UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

I move that subclause (1) of clause 2 be lettered " A," and subclause (2) be lettered " B." That is necessary because this Bill will eventually be printed in the general Act, and in order to make it understandable, this change is necessary. When we come ,to later clauses, we shall require to change two others to " C " and " D." If hon. members look at the bottom of page 6, they will find there below clause 21, a subclause (4), which would look at first blush as if it were a subclause of clause 21, but such is not the case; the idea being that this becomes subclause 4 really of clause 2 of the Bill. It is necessary to letter it as I suggest so that, when this is printed as a part of the whole Act, it will properly carry out the intention.

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Amendment agreed to.


L LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Laurier Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Does the committee understand that clause 2 covers the entire Bill ?

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

It is true .that clause 2 covers the entire Bill, but I do not by any means mean, to say that we are carrying the entire Bill when we carry clause 2.

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L LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Laurier Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Shall we take up

clause 2, subclause by subclause ?

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

Yes.

On subclause 5-who may vote:

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

I move to strike out the words "one month" in line 7 on page 2 and to replace them with the words " two months." That is to provide for the necessary residence qualification. The voter must have resided in Canada for one year and in the electoral district for two months. In the text it is one month.

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L LIB

John Howard Sinclair

Laurier Liberal

Mr. J. H. SINCLAIR:

Why not make it three months? Two months is rather short.

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

The Committee agreed

on two months, and I have always supposed that when committees come to an agreement the agreement is respected.

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UNION

John Archibald Campbell

Unionist

Mr. CAMPBELL:

Suppose a man moves from constituency A to constituency B one month before the issue of the writ of election, where would he vote?

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

He would not vote in

the 'constituency he moved to unless he had lived there two months prior to the issue of the writ.

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UNION

John Archibald Campbell

Unionist

Mr. CAMPBELL:

Would he have the

right to vote in the constituency he had left?

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UNION

John Archibald Campbell

Unionist

Mr. CAMPBELL:

Then he would have

no vote at all. That would not be right.

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UNI L

Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

I do not think it is possible to frame an election law under which you cannot conceive a case w'here a man will be deprived of his right to vote. Perhaps down in the province of New Brunswick we have come as near to meeting the situation as any other place I know of. We have provided in the first place that at the time of the election a man must be a resident of the electoral district in which he attempts to vote. If he only moved into that constituency the day before the election but became a bona fide resident, he has a right to vote there, provided he had been registered in his former constituency and receives a certificate transferring his vote.

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John Howard Sinclair

Laurier Liberal

Mr. J. H. SINCLAIR:

How long would he have to be in the constituency before he could vote? .

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Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

No time at all. Under the provincial law he can vote on producing the certificate transferring his vote from his former constituency.

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UNION

John Archibald Campbell

Unionist

Mr. CAMPBELL:

I can quite understand the desirability of a provision that a man shall have resided in a constituency for a certain length of time before he can vote in a provincial election; that gives him time to become familiar with the affairs of the province. But I do not think there should be any such provision in the case of a Dominion election, because a man will be just as familiar with Dominion affairs in one constituency as in another, and he should have the privilege of voting either in the constituency he has left or in the one he has moved to.

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Frank Broadstreet Carvell (Minister of Public Works)

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. CARVELL:

If the hon. gentleman's contention was carried out, let us see where he would land. Suppose you reduce the time to the lowest possible minimum, say, one day's residence. You could easily bring in five hundred people into a constituency just before the election, and you can see what the effect would be. You must fix a term of residence; otherwise the law would be open to abuse.

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July 5, 1919