May 7, 1918

UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

It is no use for the tribunals to .sit with respect to men between the ages of twenty and twenty-two. But there are men not within these ages who have claimed exemption and whose claim's have not finally been dealt with, and these must be considered by the tribunals. Do I make myself clear?

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Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

I do not know that I understand exactly.

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Men from twenty to twenty-two years inclusive have been called up. iSo far as they are concerned exemptions are abolished whether already allowed or now pending. But there are men from twenty-three to thirty-four years, both inclusive, who are in Class 1 and who have claimed exemption, and appeals are pending with regard to them. Some of these appeals have not yet been disposed of, I believe, by the first tribunal. It is necessary to proceed with the consideration of these claims because it is not yet known whether these classes will be called out.

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Joseph Edmond Lesage

Laurier Liberal

Mr. J. E. LESAGE (Hochelaga):

I call attention to certain matters which have taken place lately in Montreal. I have been aware for quite some time that the medical examination is not as complete as it should be. Now that we understand that all exemptions are supposed to disappear under the Military Service Act as amended, it seems to me most important that the medical examination should be made conscientiously.

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Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Unionist

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. gentleman is proceeding to enter into a discussion. I would remind him that such is not in order at this stage.

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Ask your question.

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Joseph Edmond Lesage

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LESAGE:

I want to know if a chemist or a dentist, who voluntarily reports to the proper depot in his district for military service is entitled to be examined as he should be, and how he would be classified by the medical boards? The reason I referred to the medical examination was not to dispuss the subject, but simply to have an explanation on that particular point. I understand that a chemist or pharmacist who applies naturally expects to be classified by the medical board. If he should be examined and classified in Category A he is not entitled to be considered, as I understand, as eligible for service in his particular medical branch. That is why I

wanted to submit this detail to the Government in the hope that they would see that the medical examination is properly done. I would like to know from -the Government what proceedings should he taken and -what this young fellow should do to be classified by the medical boards as he should be.

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

I am afraid I do not understand the hon. gentleman's question.

Major-General MEWBCRN: Men reporting for service will undergo a medical examination as to their physical category to determine whether they are fit for general service or not. If a man is found fit for general service he is put in Class A, and he will join the regular depot battalion. The medical board have nothing to do with tho classification of a man according to his trade or occupation. The intention is to try and utilize the services of a man where his professional knowledge or otherwise may be best for the nation. If he is a chemist and desires to join any particular branch of the Army Medical Corps, it is a question of whether there are vacancies requiring such men. I understand that in England they are trying to classify men according to their trade and occupation, whereby their knowledge will be best utilized. The medical examination made when a man reports does not go into that: It is to determine whether the man is physically fit or not.

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Joseph Alfred Leduc

Laurier Liberal

Mr. J. ALFRED LEDUC (Westmount-St. Henry):

With reference to the exemptions from twenty to twenty-two years of age, I would like to understand this matter thoroughly so that when we go before our constituents we can tell them about these exemptions-

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UNION

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Unionist

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. gentleman is not in order.

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

What is the question?

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Joseph Alfred Leduc

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEDUC:

The question is: are the exemptions still in effect, or are they withdrawn with respect to men from twenty to twenty-two years old?

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

They are absolutely withdrawn in t'he case of men between the ages of twenty and twenty-two years, both inclusive, but in respect of other ages the tribunals may adjudicate.

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Joseph Alfred Leduc

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEDUC:

What I wanted to put before the House, Mr. Speaker, is this: a man.

who-

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

What is the other

question? ,

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Joseph Alfred Leduc

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEDUC:

The other question is: I *want to know if a man can still go before a tribunal in cases where he has had his exemption claim in his pocket for about two months, the hearing being postponed from one day to another, and no decision having been given?

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

What age does the hon. gentleman refer to?

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

His exemption is of no avail if he is twenty-one years. If the hon. gentleman wishes further information he might see the Minister of Militia and Defence who will endeavour to make :t perfectly clear to him.

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May 7, 1918