April 26, 1918

L LIB

Charles Murphy

Laurier Liberal

Hon. CHARLES MURPHY:

Earlier this week the newspapers announced that the hon. the Minister of Finance (Sir Thomas White), and the hon. the Acting Minister of Finance (Mr. A. K. Maclean), were at Washington and New York. This morning's, and last evening's, papers announced that the right hon. the Prime Minister (Sir Robert Borden) had gone down to either of these cities to confer with them. May I inquire from the leader of the Government if any unusual condition has arisen necessitating the presence of these three members of the Government in the United States, and if so, whether a statement can be made to the House?

Hon. C. J. DOHERTY^ (Minister of Justice): The Acting Minister of Finance has not left the city and the item as regards him is quite incorrect. The Prime Minister is absent, but, I do not think that there is aniy unusual circumstance that has necessitated that absence that could, at the moment be stated to the House.

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THIRD READINGS.


Bill No. 65, to amend the Companies Act.-Hon. Mr. Doherty. Bill No. 20, to amend the Inspection and Sale Act (Hay and Straw Inspection).- Sir George Foster.


PENITENTIARY ACT AMENDMENT.


On the motion of Hon. C. J. Doherty (Minister of Justice) Bill No. 21, to amend the Penitentiary Act, was read the second time and the House went into committee thereon, Mr. Boivin in the Chair. On section 1-Definition of " Inspector " amended. .Mr. LEMIEUX: Will the minister kindly state in a few words the object of the Bill.


UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

There are substantially two provisions in the Bill. The first is for the purpose of remodelling the system on which .the penitentiaries are administered to the extent of providing for a superintendent and inspectors, instead of two inspectors. The second provision is a necessary consequence of the first, substituting

" superintendent " for " inspector " where necessary, and defining the duties of the respective officers. The Bill also confers power to make regulations by which it will be possible to provide for the better employment of the convicts in each institution by the establishing and carrying on of suitable industries. The provision further makes it possible, where as a result of arrangements made to that end it would be found desirable and means were put at the disposal of the authorities for the purpose, to make some allowance in the way of remuneration to convicts for the labour they perform. While the Bill merely contains that empowering provision, what is contemplated is-if the system of useful employment should, by means of disposing of the products exclusively to other departments of the Government, produce a revenue-to make a certain allowance to convicts payable to dependent relatives, if they have any, and if there are no dependent relatives to enable the funds to accumulate in the interest of the convict .himself, so that when he leaves the institution he may make a start in life with some little savings behind him.

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L LIB

Charles Murphy

Laurier Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

That is what my hon. friend means by " providing remuneration to the convict?"

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

Yes.

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

Yes.

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Section agreed to. On section 3-Appointment of superintendent:


L LIB

Edmond Proulx

Laurier Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

Whom does the minister intend to appoint as superintendent?

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

If the appointment were in the hand's of the minister he might have an intention in that regard and be able to state it, but the hon. member must know that appointments are now required to be made upon the recommendation of the Civil Service 'Commission. It is, therefore, not ' possible for me to have an intention as to whom I am going to name, because the appointment does not rest with me.

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L LIB

Edmond Proulx

Laurier Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

I suppose the Governor in Council will act upon the recommendation of the minister?

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

Ultimately it is a matter for the Governor in Council, but the recommendation of the Civil Service Commission

is essential, and I cannot undertake to say what they may have in mind.

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L LIB

Edmond Proulx

Laurier Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

Will an examination before appointment be required by the Civil Service Commission?

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

It rests wtih the Civil Service Commission to prescribe the methods governing the determining of their own recommendations. I am not in a position to say what determination they have made, or, indeed, whether they have prepared a regulation which would apply to an appointment of this kind. However, the requirement that their recommendation is essential to the appointment would apply in this case as much as in any other.

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Edmond Proulx

Laurier Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

The section says that the superintendent shall be an officer of the Department. of Justice.

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UNION

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Unionist

Mr. DOHERTY:

Yes.

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Edmond Proulx

Laurier Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

Then I suppose the person recommended will already have acted as inspector?

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April 26, 1918