April 25, 1918

L LIB

Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Laurier Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

The hon. member for Huntingdon mentioned the other day that that sort of thing is done. A man may see a beautiful mow of hay in a barn and arrange to buy it and have the farmer press it for him, but when he gets it, he finds that it has been mixed with an inferior class of hay. I think this clause was designed to provide to some extent against such an offence.

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L LIB

Joseph-Charles-Théodore Gervais

Laurier Liberal

Mr. GERVAIS (Berthier):

The Bill provides a penalty for the person putting any substance or foreign body in hay. How will you know when the hay is in a foreign market who has put in a stone, for example?

You have rejected the identification clause. How are you to know who owned the hay when the stone was placed there?

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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

The penalty is

for a general offence in the way of fraud, *and whoever tried the case would exercise his judigment as to the kind of fraud that was intended. There are a thousand things that might be put in, hut it would 'be impossible to cumber up the Act with all these details. I think we cannot do better than to allow the person who tries the case to say whether the offence comes within the Act.

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L LIB

Jean-Joseph Denis

Laurier Liberal

Mr. DENIS:

One of the reasons why I

insisted so strpngly on my amendment last night was to make the present clause more effective. John Jones or Tom Smith would not know who had committed the fraud unless his name appeared on the bale.

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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

The imposition

of a penalty tends to lessen the liability of the offence being committed.

*Clause as amended agreed to.

On clause 340C-grades:

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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

The question

was raised yesterday as to what constituted No. 1 grade of straw. I have been in communication with the Department of Agriculture and they have made this suggestion, which I think is a very good one: that there is a kind of straw, probably not very plentiful, which could be clearly defined as No. 1 and be made a merchantable grade. This straw is of good feeding value. I therefore beg to move that after the word "follows" in the first line of clause 340C we insert the following:

SMo. 1 straw shall be bright, clean, well-saved oat straw suitable for feeding purposes.

I think this would be a good (Straw to fix as No. 1.

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Amendment agreed to.


CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

I move: *

That 34-OC. be further amended by adding after the word "straw" in the second line, the following; words: "from all cultivated cereals."

Amendment agreed1 to.

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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

To correct an error in the printing, I move:

That 340 be amended by striking- out from line 22 the words "of fair colour and sound," and replacing them by the words: "of good odour, sound and well (Cured."

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Amendment agreed to. members in regard to it. Since the matter came up this afternoon I sent for the * original Act of which this is an amendment, but so far I have been unable to obtain it. I hardly know just what changes are made by section 340.


CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

In general, the changes made under the amendments just adopted are almost nil. Practically, the substance of 340 is the same as the old Act.

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L LIB

Arthur Bliss Copp

Laurier Liberal

Mr. COPP:

In what we call the dike lands in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, an exceptionally fine quality of marketable hay is grown which is not strong in timothy, as the upland hay is. I refer to the counties of Albert and Westmorland in New Brunswick, Oumberland, and possibly the Annapolis valley, in Nova Scotia. I fear that hay grown on these dike lands will not measure up to the standard of grades 1, 2 and 3 timothy, and as a resuit of this legislation, an excellent quality of hay may be forced on the market at a lower price than would otherwise he the case.

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George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

Is it within my hon. friend's knowledge that this has actually resulted?

IMr. COPP: No, we have had no inspectors there. For instance, a quantity of hay shipped from that section of the country to North Cape Breton and Victoria might be turned down by the inspector there because it did not contain the specified proportion of timothy/ Could some words not be added to the Bill with reference to this hay grown on dike lands?

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George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

If my hon. friend will communicate his suggestion to me in writing, I shall be glad to have the officers of the department take it up, and it may (be considered in the Senate.

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Amendment agreed to. Bill reported.


SUPPLY.


The House in Committee of Supply, Mr. Boivin in the Chair. Public Buildings, Nova Scotia-Amherst Drill HaLl, $10,000.


L LIB
L LIB

Arthur Bliss Copp

Laurier Liberal

Mr. COPP:

I was unable to be present IMr. CARVELL: No, The amount is to yesterday when this Bill was under dis- cover some small expenditures necessary cussion, and I have not had an opportunity to finish the building, which must have of reading the remarks made by different cost about $150,000.

My recollection is that there is* a little flooring to be put in, cleaning up and general finishing.

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April 25, 1918