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March 22, 1918

L LIB

Charles Murphy

Laurier Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MURPHY:

Would it be possible at the same time, to have a statement explaining what actions are confirmed as provided in section 5?

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist
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Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

That merely relates to ordinary administrative actions so far as I understand.

iMr. MURPHY: A statement of those

could be brought down.

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UNION

James Alexander Calder (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Unionist
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Mr. CALDER:

There is no statement of that kind. I might say that the Immigration Branch was a very distinct section of the Interior Department, andJ its whole personnel has been moved over. None of the officials attached to any other part of the Interior Department have been taken over with the Immigration Branch. The Immigration Branch was a body of itself within the Interior Department, and that branch has now simply become a department of the public service. I do not know of any particular information that I can bring down in connection with section 5. If the hon. member for Russell (Mr. Murphy) desires any particular information, and will let me know the nature of it, I shall only be too glad to bring it down to the House.

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L LIB

Charles Murphy

Laurier Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MURPHY:

What I would like to know is what I am "confirming" by voting for that section?

Sir ROBERT BORDEN. All that section means is this: the department has been created by Order in Council, and the minister has been discharging his duties, that is to say, he has taken over this branch from the Department of the Interior. Since its establishment he has engaged in the usual administrative acts in respect of immigration which would otherwise have devolved upon the Minister of the Interior. It is merely designed to sanction his acts in that respect.

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L LIB

Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Laurier Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. McKENZIE:

involves the expenditure of a dollar except for the purposes of war, we are establishing this new department with all that it involves. I remember well, when the present Acting Minister of Finance (Mr. A. K. Maclean), as the financial critic on this side of the House, before he struck the trail for Damascus, was loud in his criticism as to the expenditure in conneet;on with these departments, but now he is not satisfied evidently with all the money he tan spend in the old departments, but must create new ones in order to have fresh fields for his new zeal as a convert to the faith of hon. gentlemen on the other side. I think it is only fair to the country, and fair to the Government, that it should be pointed out that we have had no explanation why this new department was created. It has not been explained to this House in any way whatsoever why the Department of the Interior was not able to look after this busi-ness* It would appear to me the trouble was this: the Prime Minister wanted a new government; he wanted to take in new blood, and he would not take it in without making places for it, and his heart was too tender, he was too much attached to his dear old friends of the dear old times to have them removed, and therefore he took his carving knife and began to cut and carve the departments in order to make room for his friends. That is the only necessity that I can see. I do not think that is any justification. In the old land, when like circumstances arose, Premier Asquith made room for new blood by, getting some of his old ministers to go out. There is no record in Great Britain where any department was out in two to provide new portfolios. But here, whenever anybody was put out, it was done in a way in which almost anvbodv would like to go out. The ex-Minister of Marine and Fisheries, Hon. Mr. Hazen, for instance, became chief justice of the province of New Brunswick at a salary of $7,000 .a year, a very high position indeed. Almost anybody would be willing to go out under conditions of that kind. And going right down through the list, that is the sort of sacrifice that has been made by hon. gentlemen who left the Government. I strongly protest against this creation or splitting of departments when the business of the country does not require it, merely for the purpose of feathering a nest for foreign birds that wish to go into the Government.

Bill reported.

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THE ROYAL ASSENT.

A message was delivered by Colonel Ernest J. Chambers, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, as follows: Mr. Speaker, the Deputy of His Excellency, the Governor-General desires the immediate attendance of this Honourable House in the Chamber of the Honourable the Senate. Accordingly the House went up to the Senate. And having returned, The Speaker informed the House that the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor General had been pleased to give, in His Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bill: Bill No. 18,-An Act for granting to His Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of the financial year ending the 31st March, 1919.

SELECTING STANDING COMMITTEES.

Sir ROBERT BORDEN presented the following report of the Special Committee appointed to prepare report with all convenient speed lists of members to compose the Select Standing Committees of the House during the present session: No. 1. ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS. Messieurs : Armstrong (York), Blake, Boys, Buchanan, Bureau, Cannon, Carvell, Copp, Crothers, Davidson, Demers, Devlin, Doherty, Douglas (Strathcona), Fripp, Guthrie, No Jacobs, Keefer, Lapointe (Kamouraska) Lemieux, McCoig, McIntosh! McKenzie, McMaster, Meighen, Mowat, Nickle, Porter, Reid (Mackenzie), Sifton, Tweedie, and Vien.-32. . 2.

ON RAILWAYS, CANALS AND TELEGRAPH LINES.

Messieurs : Ames (Sir Herbert), Anderson, Andrews, Archambaui t, Armstrong (Lambton) Arthurs, Ballantyne, Blair, Bonnell, Boyer, Boys, Bristol, Buchanan, Bureau, LanetOt, Lapointe (Kamouraska), Lapointe (St. James), Lavigueur, Leduc, Lemieux, Lesage, Mackie (Edmonton), Mackie (Renfrew), Maclean (York), MacNutt, McCoig, Cahill, Calder, Cannon, Carvell, Casgrain, Chabot, Charlton, CLark (Red Deer), Clements, Cochrane, Cockshutt, Cooper, Copp, Crowe, Cruise, Currie, d'Anjou, Davidson, Davis, Dech£ne, Delisle, Devlin, Doherty, Douglas (Strathcona), Douglas (Cape Breton), Edwards, Elkin, Ethier, Fafard, Fielding, Fontaine, Fournier, Fraser, Fripp, Gauvreau, Guthrie, Harrison, Hay, Henders, Hepburn, Hocken, Hughes (Sir Sam), Kay, Keefer, Lalor, McCrea, McCurdy, McGregor, . McKenzie, McLean {Royal), McQuarrie, Maharg, Manion, Marcile (Bagot), Marshall, Martin, Merner, Middlebro, Molloy, Morphy, Mowat, Murphy, Nesbitt, Nicholson (Queens), Nickle, Pardee, Pelletier, Porter, Power, Richardson, Savard, Shaw, Sheard, Simpson, Smith, Stevens, Stewart, Sutherland, Thompson (Weyburn), Thomson (Qu'Appelle), Trahan, Tudhope, Turriff, Vien, Wallace, Wilson (Wentworth), Wilson (Saskatoon), and Wright.-114. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Twenty-five Members. * Fulton, Gauthier, Glass, Green, Guthrie, Sifton, Steele, Thompson (Hastings), Tobin, and Wigmore.-58. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Ten Members. No. 4. ON STANDING ORDERS. Messieurs : Armstrong (Lambton), McGibbon (Argenteuil), Mclsaac, McLeod, Marcile (Bagot), Mayrand, Michaud, Paul, Seguin, Steacy, Turgeon, Verville, Wallace, Wigmore, and Wright.-3*0. Brien, Burrell, Butts, Chabot, Clarke (Wellington), Cruise, Deslauriers, Doherty, Euler, Gervais, Griesbach, Hartt, Maclean (York ), MaoNutt, McGibbon (Muskoka), And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Seven Members.

No. 5. ON PRINTING. Messieurs : Bowman, Brouillard, Buchanan, Burnham, Cardin, Charters, Clark (Bruce), Clarke (Wellington), Crowe, Currie, Fontaine, Hocken, Hughes (Sir Sam), Keefer, Maclean (Halifax), Michaud, Murphy, Prevost, Reid (Mackenzie), Richardson, Shaw, Verville, White (Victoria), and Wilson (Wentworth).-24.

No. 3. ON MISCELLANEOUS PRIVATE BILLS. Messieurs: Ames (Sir Herbert), Harrison, Anderson, Hocken, Armstrong (York), Lafortune, Ballantyne, Mackie (Renfrew), Ball, McGibbon (Muskoka)} Blair, McLean (Royal), Blake, Marcil (Bonaventure) Bourassa, Martin, Boyer, Myers, Boys, Pacaud, Brien, Papineau, Bureau, Pardee, Butts, Parent, Casselman, Paul, Charters, Peck, Cnonyn, Power, Douglas (Cape Breton), Prevost, DuTremblay, Proulx, Ethier, Reid (Grenville ), Euler, Richardson, Fortier, Robb. Foster (York), Rowell, Fraser, Scott, Fripp, Sharpe, No. 6. ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. Messieurs : Allan, McCrea, Andrews, McGregor, Archambault, Mclsaac, Ball, McKenzie, Best, McMaster, Bonnell, Maharg, Boys, Meighen, Bureau, Merner, Calder, Michaud, Cannon, Middlebro, Carvell, Morphy, Chaplin, Murphy, Charters, Nicholson (Algoma), Chisholm, Parent, Copp, Proulx, Crerar, Redman, Crothers, Reid (Grenville), Crowe, Scott, Davidson, Sheard, Devlin, Sifton, Edwards, Simpson, Fripp, Sinclair (Antigonish), Fulton, Spinney, Gauvreau, Thomson (Qu'Appelle),

Green, Tremain, Jacobs, Tudhope, Lapointe Turriff, {Kamouraska), Tweedie, * Mackie (R enfreto ), Verville, Maclean (Halifax), Vien, and McCoig, Wigmore.-61. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Twenty-one Members. No. 7. ON BANKING AND COMMERCE. Messieurs : Allan, Jacobs, Ames (Sir Herbert), Kay, Argue, Lang, Baldwin, Lavigueur, Best, Leduc, Bristol, L6ger, Burnham, Lemieux, Calder, Lesage, Cardin, Loggie, Carvel 1, Maclean (Halifax), Casgrain, McCurdy, Chaplin, McLeod, Charlton, McMaster, Clark {Red Deer), McQuarrie, Clements, Marshall, Cockshutt, Meighen, Crerar, Middlebro, Cronyn, Molloy, Currie, Nesbitt, d'Anjou, Nickle, Davis, Pacaud, Dech£ne, Papineau, Demers, Pardee, Denis, Porter, Desaulniers, Redman, Deslauriers, Sexsmith, Douglas {Strathcona), Sharpe, DuTremblay, Sinclair {Antigonish), Edwards, Steele, Elkin, Stevens?, Fielding, Stewart, Finley, Sutherland, Fortier, Tobin, Foster (Sir George), Tolmie, Foster {York), Trahan, Gauthier, Tremain, Gladu, Turriff, Glass, Tweedie, Halladay, Whidden, Henders, Wilson {Saskatoon), Hunt, -81. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Twenty-one Members. No. S. ON AGRICULTURE AND COLONIZATION. Messieurs: Anderson, Marcile (Bagot), Armstrong {York), Marshall, Armstrong {Lambton) , Mayrand, Argue, Merner, Arthurs, Molloy, Baldwin, Morphy, Ball, Myers, Best, MacNutt, Blair, MoCoig, Bourassa, MoCrea, Bowman, McCurdy, Boyce, McGibbon {Muskoka),. Brien, McGregor, Brouillard, McIntosh, Burrell, Mclsaac, Cahill, McLean {Royal), Casselman, McLeod, Chisholm* Nicholson {Queens), Clark {Red Deer), Nicholson {Algoma), Clarke {Wellington) , Paul, Crerar, Proulx, Cruise, ' Read {Prince), Davis, Reid {Mackenzie), Delisle, Robb, Denis, Savard, Desaulniers, Seguin, Douglas (Strathcona), Sexsmith, Edwards, Shaw, Finley, Sifton, Fournier, Simpson, Fulton, Sinclair {Antigonish), Gervais, Smith, Glass, Spinney, Halladay, Stacey, . Hay, Steele, Henders, Sutherland, Hughes (Sir Sam), Thompson {Hastings), Hunt, Thompson {Weyburn), Kay, Thomson {Quf Appelle), Knox, Tolmie, Lafortune, Tremain, Lanctot, Truax, Lang, Wallace, L6ger, White {Victoria), Mackie {Edmonton), Wilson (Wentworth), Maclean {York), Mahiarg, Wright.-93. And that the Quorum of the said Com- mittee to consist of Twelve Members. No. 9. ON MARINE AND FISHERIES. Messieurs : Butts, Munson, Campbell, McIntosh, Cardin, McKenzie, Chisholm, McQuarrie, Clark {Bruce), Nicholson, {Queens), Clements, Pelletier, Fielding, Read {Prince), Gladu, Rowell, Hartt, Sinclair (Antignoish ), Hay, Spinney, Lang, Stevens, Lapointe {St. James), Trahan, Ldger, Truax, Loggie, Tudhope, Manion, Turgeon, Martin, Wigmore.-32. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Ten Members. No. 10. * ON MINES AND MINERALS. Messieurs : Arthurs, [DOT]Lalor, Blake, Lemieux, Bonnell, Loggie, Burrell, Marcil {Bonaventure), Cahill, McMartin, Campbell, Nesbitt, Cochrane, Nicholson {A Igoma ), Cockshutt, Pacaud, Dechene, Pelletier, Denis, Prevost, Fortier, Reid1 {Mackenzie), Green, Sexsmith, Harrison, 'Smith, Hartt, Tolmie, and Knox, White (Victoriaq.-cj. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Ten Members. No. 11. ON FORESTS, WATERWAYS AND WATER-POWERS. Messieurs : Argue, Fraser, Baldwin, Halladay, Bourassa, Knox, Bowman, Mackie (Edmonton), Boyce, Manion, Bureau, Michaud, Campbell, Pacaud, Carvell, Parent, Casselman, Power, Charlton, Redman, Cochrane, Stewart, Cooper, Thompson (Hastings), Ethier, Thompson (Wey burn), Fafard, White (Victoria, Alta) Finley, Wilson Foster (York), ( Saskatoon) -31. And that the Quorum of the said Committee -do consist of Ten Members. No. 12. OFFICIAL* REPORT OF DEBATES. Messieurs : Ballantyne, Burnham, Chabot, Devlin, Elkin, Foster (Sir George), Kay, Lemieux, Marcil (Bonaventure), Mowat, Munson, McKenzie, Nickle, Richardson-14. And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Five Members. No. 13. ON THE LIBRARY. Messieurs : Allan, Andrews, Borden (Sir Robert), Boyer, Chaplin, Clark {Red Deer), Cooper, Copp, Cronyn, Crothers, Foster (Sir George), Lapointe (Kamouraska), Laurier (Sir Wilfrid), Lemieux, Meighen, Myers, Pardee, Rowell, Sheard, Whidden-20.
UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Six o'clock.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Adjourn.

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L LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal
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Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

There are a few Bills that have been printed, but nobody has had time to read them. I suggest to my right hon. friend that we Lave done a good day's work.

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist
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Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

I had hoped that we might make some progress this evening. However, it is true that it is not a very long time since the Bills were printed and if my right hon. friend greatly desires it I shall consent to an adjournment now. 1 therefore move that the House adjourn.

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Motion agreed to, and the House adjourned at six o'clock. Monday, March 25, 1918.

March 22, 1918