March 20, 1918

L LIB

Emmanuel Berchmans Devlin

Laurier Liberal

Mr. DEVLIN:

For a return showing the names of all persons employed in Ottawa in the Military Service Council, their salaries and former occupations.

CSv Robert Borden.]

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Mr DEVLIN:

For a copy of the Order in Council recently passed making provisions for the staff,'the number of persons to be employed and their salaries, in the Food Controller's Office. Also a list of the names of those at present employed, showing their respective salaries and duties, former occupations, where formerly employed and salary received in former occupation.

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L LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

For a statement in detail showing the expenditure in connection with the National Ssrvice Board for salaries, newspaper advertisements, travelling expenses, and all other expenses, respectively.

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MILITARY SERVICE.

TREATY BETWEEN GREAT BRITAIN AND UNITED STATES.

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Right Hon. S@

For a copy of any treaty between Great Britain and the United States, permitting the conscription of British subjects in the United States for military service and of American citizens residing in British Dominions.

He saiid: The subject which is involved in this motion is certainly one of very great importance. The matter was yesterday referred to casually in the observations of the Prime Minister, and in answer to a question of my hon. friend from Three Rivers (Mr. Bureau), my right hon. friend did not seem to give precise information as to the nature of the convention which had bean made (between Great Britain and the United States; but I understand, at all events-and it has been so understood by the press-that 'a convention has been adopted (by Great Britain and the United States permitting the Canadian authorities to recruit British subjects residing in the United States and permitting the American authorities also to recruit in Canada.

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

That is, their own subjects?

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L LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

doubt, but at- all events it is a fact that tractors up to a certain price have been put on the free list. But there is some-Ithing imore important than .that. Was there euch an agreement as is mentioned by the Toronto News which, after stating that there was this agreement to have no tariff changes during the war, says:

No room for doubt was left upon this issue.-

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UNION

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Unionist

Mr. SPEAKER:

I hope the right hon.

gentleman will not proceed too far with hie argument on the tariff unless he does it by way of analogy, because he is now quite far afield from the subject of his motion.

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L LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

I will not go very far afield. I will juet conclude this quotation and then I am done. I am asking for information on a subject connected with what I am reading; that is all. The Toronto News says:

No room for doubt was left upon' this issue. Independent agricultural candidates In prairie constituencies signed an undertaking to this effect before they obtained the government en-dorsation.

Is it or is it not a fact, that eonne of my old friends whom I see on the other side of the House signed such an agreement as is mentioned here? Did they agree, before they got their endorsation, that there should be no tariff changes during the war? If so, Mr. Dunning ought to be advised, because he evidently wants to have not only tractors but all agricultural implements put on the free list. He wants to have cheap production; we all want that; and it will strike everybody that if we are to have cheaper production one of the best things we can do is to have cheaper implements. Now, Mr. Speaker, I bow to your ruling.

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

I think it was hardly worth while to interrupt my right hon. friend, because it was perfectly evident that in the course of his discussion of Motion No. 13 'he had unfortunately picked up his notes on No. 16, and so he went on to discuss farm tractors on a motion concerning a military convention with the United States. His observations with regard to farm tractors do not seem to be very closely relevant to the question of the Military Convention, and I shall merely say a few words about the convention itself. My right 'hon. friend's time-worn joke about .having " no -trade or truck with the Yankees" has done service on a great many occasions. It must be tired by this time, and my right hon- friend might give it a rest for a while. As far as the military con-

vention is concerned, it has been entered into, but I do not think it can be laid on the Taible until it is ratified. It is very much along the line which is to be adopted in the convention between Great Britain and the United States, if I understand i! aright. In fact, the convention between the United States and Canada was the first one agreed to, and it will probably form the basis of the conventions which will be entered into between the United States and Great Britain, and between the United States and other European nations. There is no objection to the motion, but I do not think the document can be1 brought down until it has- been ratified.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

By the Senate?

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Yes, and by the British Government.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Laurier Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

I understand.

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UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

It will have to be ratified by both Governments.

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Motion agreed to.


WAR MISSION AT WASHINGTON.


Sir Wilfrid Laurier moved: For a copy of the Orders in Council creating the War Mission at Washington, appointments to the same, with instructions as to the extent of its powers and scope of its work. He s-aid: May I ask my right hon- friend if he -can tell me from memory the names of the members of the war mission?


UNION

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Mr. Lloyd Harris, Mr. Ross McMa-ster, Mr. A. H. Scott, Montreal, and M,r. Frank Rolph, Toronto. M-r. Lloyd Harris is the Chairman, and the Orders in Council have already been'brought down.

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Motion agreed to.


March 20, 1918