September 12, 1917

CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Judicial revision in the rural parts would he out of the question because it could not be done within the time. The only work in Quebec that has not yet been reviewed judicially is the work of the enumerators, and that will be very easily tested as it applies only to the question whether a woman has -a brother or son overseas, or whether a German or Austrian immigrant has been naturalized since 1902.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

Charles Marcil

Liberal

Mr. MARCIL:

If five women were placed on the list in my county it would be difficult to trace them within the fifteen days provided. They might not reside in the constituency at all.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

But under the Bill they must.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George William Kyte

Liberal

Mr. KYTE:

Does the provision as to the completion of the enumerators work fifteen days before election day apply all over Canada?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Yes.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George William Kyte

Liberal

Mr. KYTE:

And also the requirement that the objection of a scrutineer to a vote on -election day must be supported by affidavit?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Yes.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

Jacques Bureau

Liberal

Mr. BUREAU:

Must enumerators reside in the district for which they are appointed? '

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do not think there is any restriction on residence, hut in practice only a resident of the district could do the work.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

Jacques Bureau

Liberal

Mr. BUREAU:

The word " municipality " has a different meaning in other provinces from its meaning in Quebec.. With us the boundaries of a municipality are coextensive with those of the parish and of the school district. Would it not he well to say in section 42 "may appoint enumerators residing within the municipality in the province of Quebec or in the neighbouring municipality?"

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do not think there would he objection to that, although I would rather not amend it as I think it will work out in that way.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George Ewan McCraney

Liberal

Mr. McCRANEY:

Under the law as it now stands, lists of voters must be posted one day before nomination day, so that when the candidates are placed in the field there is a list of voters upon which to go. Under this Bill the lists will be posted up [DOT]only during the last fifteen days

4 p.m., of the twenty-eight days in which the candidates are in nomination, so that there will be thirteen days in which there will be no lists and during which candidates will be in the field. I suggest a further extension of that time. When candidates are in the field the lists ought to he available. Then who are the persons qualified to nominate a candidate for Parliament? They are persons who are on the enumeration list. Are you not going to change the whole basis of your nomination? To-day the candidate is nominated one week before election day, and he is nominated by so many qualified electors, that is those whose names have been posted up the day before in a public place.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Not necessarily; he

simply needs to he qualified. Bejng entitled to go on the list would be a qualification.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George Ewan McCraney

Liberal

Mr. McCRANEY:

The existing provision is that each enumerator, the day before nomination day, posts up two copies of the list in conspicuous places, one I think in the post office and another in a conspicuous place. There is no provision for the case of lists being torn down. That sometimes happens in rural districts. Lists disappear. They are posted on the outside of buildings. Has that point been covered so that the public will have before them continuously the lists? Under the new provision giving fifteen days for the posting up of the lists, there will he candidates definitely in the field before -any lists are available. There is no provision under the old law for the delivery of copies of the enumerators'

lists to candidates, because the candidates are nominated the day after the lists go up. The Secretary of State is providing that candidates shall be in the field 13 days before the lists go up. I ask him to provide that the enumerator in each polling division give a copy of the enumeration list to each of the candidates. Most of these lists are typewritten and a number of copies can easily be made.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The hon. gentleman

suggests that if the lists are not completed a man cannot qualify as nominator or candidate. The Act says that a certain number of electors may nominate a candidate. An elector is defined as one entitled to vote.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George Ewan McCraney

Liberal

Mr. McCRANEY:

In this case he would not be entitled to vote, because his name would not be on the enumerator's list.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

He would be entitled to vote if he was a qualified voter. A man may be entitled to vote, even though he is not on the list.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

Suppose two candidates are nominated and objection is taken against one on the ground that he has not been nominated by 25 duly qualified electors of his riding. The returning officer is called upon to decide whether or not the man has been properly nominated. If he decides that the candidate was not properly nominated, that is the end of the election, If he decides that the candidate was properly nominated, the election shall proceed. In the Maritime Provinces, Quebec, and Ontario there are lists from which the names of 25 qualified voters could be selected. But where there are no lists, how is the returning officer to decide whether he is justified in coming to the conclusion that the candidate has been properly nominated?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The Election Act sets forth the qualifications and disqualifications of voters; he would have to judge from that.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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LIB

George Ewan McCraney

Liberal

Mr. McCRANEY:

In that case he would have to examine into the qualification of every man whose name appeared on the nomination paper. Formerly there was no occasion for that because the enumeration list was posted up, and that was prima facie evidence-

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE HOUSE IN COMMITTEE ON THE WARTIME ELECTIONS ACT-RULE 17B APPLIED.
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September 12, 1917