August 25, 1917

LIB

John Howard Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. J. H. SINCLAIR (Guysborough):

I rise to a question of privilege. I do not often refer to anything that I find in the newspapers, but when the newspapers get astray to the extent of $350,000,000, I suppose we ought to pull them up and put them right. I have been represented in the Ottawa Journal as saying that if the Canadian Northern Railway Bill went through it would increase the public debt to the extent of $800,000,000. I never made any such statement. I was replying to the statement of my hon. friend from Red Deer (Mr. Michael Clark), that the soldiers were doing a great deal of thinking, inferring that when they came home they would insist on some necessary reforms. I ventured to say in reply that when the soldiers went away the public debt of this country was $350,000,000, roughly speaking; that ,if we put this Bill through, the public debt when the soldiers returned would be $800,000,000, meaning that there would be an addition of $450,000,000, and not an addition of $800,000,000 as stated by the Journal. The other question was whether that debt was a net debt or a gross

debt. That depends largely on how you look at it. At present the road is not paying interest and running expenses, and I inferred that under public ownership it would not do any better, so that if the people of this country have to .tax themselves for the interest on the 3450,000,000 we might as well at once add that amount to our net debt, as that is what it would mean. All I have to say about the writer in the Journal is that if he read what was said in Hansard he either intentionally misconstrued what I said or else was too wooden-headed to understand plain English.

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MUNITIONS CONTKACT.


On the Orders of the Day:


LIB

Edward Mortimer Macdonald

Liberal

Mr. E. M. MACDONALD (Pictou):

I am sure that many hon. gentlemen have heard from many portions of the country where munitions work is being carried on that instructions have been sent out to discontinue the manufacture of munitions. In various places in my province this word has been received from the Imperial Munitions Board. As it has been said that the financing of this board has been done by this Government, it is a, matter of importance that the country should know why it is that the manufacture of shells, has been stopped. Perhaps the Minister of Trade and Commerce would tell us, in the absence of the Minister of Finance.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEOBGE FOSTEK:

I should prefer that the full answer be given by the Minuter of Finance or the Prime Minister, but if there be any stoppage of the manufacture of shells in this country or any diminution, as I believe there is to be, it is because^ the variety of shell the manufacture of which will be diminished or discontinued is not now needed from Canada, as they are able to produce them in sufficient quantities in Great Britain.

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LIB

Edward Mortimer Macdonald

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD:

I should like a fuller statement, because I d.o not think my right hon. friend's statement is complete.

SirGEOEGE FOSTEE: I said I could not make a full statement.

method of peesenting inquieies.

On the Orders of the Day:

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LIB

William Erskine Knowles

Liberal

Mr. W. E. KNOWLES (Moosejaw):

I wish to ask a question of the Minister of Militia.

He is not in his place, but as the question would necessitate his referring to the

records in his office, I shall place it on Hansard in order that he may see it. I am in receipt of a letter from a correspondent, a constituent o.f mine-

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Mr. SPEAKEE@

If the hon. gentleman will put his question on the Order Paper the answer will be forthcoming as quickly as if he asked it in the House, inasmuch as, in the absence of the minister, an answer cannot now be given.

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Mr. SPEAKEE@

The hon. member has himself admitted that an answer cannot be forthcoming to-day. I would therefore ask that he should proceed in the regular way.

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SUPPLY.


House again in Committee of Supply, Mr. Eainville in the Chair. Department of Railways and Canals-Canadian Government .Railways, rolling stock, $25,000,000.


CON

Francis Cochrane (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHEANE:

This vote is to. provide for the purchasing of fifty engines from the Montreal Locomotive Works-thirty Mikados at $48,750, ten Santa Fes at $56,000, and ten Pacifies at $47,300. Then there are to be purchased fifty locomotives from the Canadian Locomotive Works, Kingston, at $48,750. There are also 6,000 box cars, as follows:

1.000. 40-ton steel-frame box cars purchased from Canadian Car and Foundry Company at $2,417 each; 1,000, 40-ton steel-frame box cars purchased from Eastern Car Company at $2,417 each; 2,000, 40-ton steel-frame box cars purchased from Canadian Car and Foundry Company at $2,647.50 each; 1,000, 30-ton steel-frame stock cars purchased from Canadian Car and Foundry Company at $2,271 each; 1,000, 40-ton steel-frame box cars purchased from the National Steel Car Company of Hamilton at $2,647.50 each.

Then there are fourteen 10-wheel Chicago Great Western Kailway second-hand locomotives amounting to $4,748,700 for further purchase of rolling stock that may be required.

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LIB

Edward Mortimer Macdonald

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD:

Is that for the Canadian Northern or only for the Transcontinental and Intercolonial?

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CON

Francis Cochrane (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHEANE:

What we purpose

doing is to use what is necessary on the

Government roads and then distribute the rest where necessary.

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LIB

August 25, 1917