June 13, 1917

CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

I am not thoroughly clear in my own mind with regard to the steps that have been taken in this matter, but my impression is that the vessel that was there was condemned and consequently we were unable to employ her. We require a certificated vessel. Then came the difficulty of getting another vessel.

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LIB

Charles Arthur Gauvreau

Liberal

Mr. GAUVREAU:

The boat was not condemned as a freighter, but it was condemned under the pretext that it was not safe for passengers. You can employ a boat as a freighter without allowing passengers to go on board.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

Yes, but we subsidize for both freight and passengers, and as it was impossible for them to carry passengers because of the condemnation, we did not feel that we could subsidize the boat. There has always been the difficulty of the exceedingly small amount of freight to be carried. Take, for instance, the route between Rivifere du Loup, Tadoussac and St. Lawrence ports, for which there was $8,000 subsidy. The number of trips made in 1916 was 29, and the amount of freight carried was 42 tons. That was about one and a half tons per trip. It is a very small amount, of tons per trip. It is very small amount of pay for it. You could buy that tonnage over and over again for $8,000, and if the boat could not carry passengers it seemed too much to pay. We asked for tenders, but the tenders were still higher, and in some cases it became impossible to get a boat. I will look into it and read the remarks that my hon. friend has made.

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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. J. J. HUGHES:

The minister says that he could not subsidize a boat condemned as far as the passenger service is. concerned. I am informed that the steamer Amelia, plying between the mainland and the Magdalen islands, was condemned last fall as a passenger steamer.

Sir -GEORGE FOSTER: No, she has a certificate and always has had. She would not be allowed to run without a certificate.

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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. J. J. HUGHES:

Would the minister go back to item No. 191:

Steam service between Prince Edward Island and Cape Breton and Newfoundland, $16,500.

How often will the trips be made, and at what ports in Prince Edward Island will the boats call?

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

I think it is the same as last year:

Regular sailings every fortnight between Summerside, P.E.I., and St. Johns, Nfld., calling each way at Charlottetown, P.E.I., at Sydney, N.S., and, if so required by the minister, calling on outward voyages only at Souris, P.E.I., and North Sydney, N.S.

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LIB
CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

The Sable Island.

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LIB

Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

I have had complaints from my town about that boat because when going to Sydney she passes our port and does not call. If she had to go farther to call there might be some excuse for it, but in going in and coming out she has to pass North Sydney and if she brings freight

for North Sydney she leaves it at Sydney and it has to be reshipped to North Sydney. Some arrangement should be made by which this boat would regularly call at North Sydney.

Progress reported.

On the motion of Sir George Foster for the adjournment of the House:

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LIB
CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

I do not know what arrangement has been made by the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition as to the Military Service Bill.

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LIB
CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

Not to-morrow?

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LIB
CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

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CONDUCT OF THE WAR.

PROPOSED MOTION BY HON. GEO. P.


Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM: I wish to notify the Government that at an appropriate time I will move the following or a similar resolution: That in the opinion of this House it is desirable that steps should be taken forthwith by the Government to provide that accumulated wealth should contribute immediately and effectively to the cost of the war, and that all agricultural, industrial, transportation and natural resources of Canada should be organized forthwith so as to ensure the greatest possible assistance to the Empire in the war and to reduce the cost of living to the Canad dian people.


CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

Will that opportune time probably be to-morrow?

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LIB

George Perry Graham

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

No.

Motion agreed to and the House adjourned at 10.35 p.m. Wednesday.

Thursday, June 14, 1917.

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Subtopic:   PROPOSED MOTION BY HON. GEO. P.
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June 13, 1917