May 4, 1917


Further consideration of Bill No. 14 respecting the Grain Growers Grain Company, Limited, and to authorize it to change its name to "United Grain Growers, Limited."-Mr. Bradbury-in Committee. On section 5-Power to prohibit shareholder voting by proxy:


CON

George Henry Bradbury

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADBURY:

Before we go any further, an arrangement has been come to by which an amendment is to be made to that section. The discussion, the last time the Bill was before the House, was on clause 5 and that was regarding the voting to be permitted. The matter has been thoroughly explained and I am informed that my hon. friend the Solicitor General (Mr. Meighen) is perfectly satisfied with this amendment which has been placed in my hands. The amendment, which I beg leave to move, seconded by Mr. Schaffner, reads as follows :

That section 5 be amended' by adding- the following sub-section: 'tNo by-law passed

under the provisions of this section shall go into operation until a by-law has been passed under the next following section giving the shareholders representation at annual and other meetings by means of elected delegates as soon as the right of voting by proxy is abolished."

This, I think, clears up the difficulty.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   UNITED GRAIN GROWERS, LIMITED.
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LIB

Alexander Kenneth Maclean

Liberal

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

I would suggest that the preceding -subsection be numbered 1 -and this 2.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   UNITED GRAIN GROWERS, LIMITED.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

I understand that it is not customary now to number the first subsection-. The second is No. 2 but the first is not numbered 1 because it is 1.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   UNITED GRAIN GROWERS, LIMITED.
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LIB

Alexander Kenneth Maclean

Liberal

Mr. MACLEAN:

I think that has become the rule here but I do not think it is considered good drafting all the same.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   UNITED GRAIN GROWERS, LIMITED.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

I am disposed to agree with my hon. friend but I know it is customary.

Section as amended agreed to.

Bill reported, read the third time and passed.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   UNITED GRAIN GROWERS, LIMITED.
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MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.


Bill No. 37, respecting The Mount Royal Tunnel and Terminal Company, Limited.- Mr. Rainville-in committee.


LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

I notice that this Bill has been amended. Would you be good enough, Mr. Chairman, to indicate what the amendment is?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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CON

Joseph Hormisdas Rainville (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN:

The amendment is in clause 2: "Section 12 of chapter 74 of the Statutes of 1912 is hereby repealed."

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

Can any one tell us what that was?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN:

This work is pretty well advanced; indeed, a train has passed through the tunnel. The Bill merely provides for an extension of time. There is no opposition from the city of Montreal or from any other source. I regret that I cannot give a proper answer to my hon. friend's question, but I may say that the matter is not contentious. There is but little change from the terms of the original Bill.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

From the reading of the amendment by the chairman, it occurs to me that it may be a verbal change made necessary by this new Bill. Apart from that, however, I desire to point out to the committee that, as the hon.. member for Peel has just said, the works referred to in this Act are rapidly approaching completion. A train went through the tunnel a week or ten days ago. The contract for the terminal on Dorchester street was let some time last fall, and the work there is fairly well advanced. The people of Montreal and vicinity are very much interested in the progress of this work; the Montreal newspapers devote a great deal of attention to it. Sir Donald Mann was recently interviewed, and stated that the trains through

the tunnel would be in operation by August next, if I mistake not. I read in one of the Montreal newspapers not very long ago that financial arrangements have been made that

necessitate an application of the moneys that have been secured by way of loan for the completion of this work to no other undertaking of the Canadian Northern Company. Under these circumstances it occurs to me that five years is a rather long extension to grant, and that a couple of years at the outside would 'be sufficient, if the work is really to be completed, and if it is as near completion as persons connected with the Canadian Northern railway and their officers represent it to be. These works have dawdled along for quite a number of years, and possibly if a shorter extension commensurate with the requirements of the company were granted they would be brought to completion much more quickly. I invite an expression of opinion from some gentleman from Montreal who is more familiar with the matter than I am.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

While under ordinary circumstances the extension would appeaT to be rather long, I may point out that of all the enterprises of the Canadian Northern this is, perhaps, the only one which has been brought to a successful issue. Since they started the tunnelling of the mountain at Montreal they have not stopped their work, and I know that in a short time they intend to build a convenient station and terminus on Dorchester street. I think that under the circumstances the committee would do well to give them the extension for which they ask.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

Five years is rather long.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

Perhaps so, but even during this war and under the difficult conditions which every railway company has had to go through, the Canadian Northern has been doing excellent work in Montreal. On account of the fact that they have tunnelled the mountain and that they are building the station, as I am told that they have secured the necessary funds to build it, I think we should grant them that extension of time.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

I hope my hon. friend

is correct. Could my hon. friend from Peel (Mr. Blain) give us any statement as to that?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN:

That matter was discussed in committee and every one present was quite satisfied with the progress of the

work, as my hon. friend from Rouville has pointed out.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

Did any representative

of the Canadian Northern railway give to the committee any assurance regarding the completion of the work?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN:

Yes, that was assured.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   MOUNT ROYAL TUNNEL AND TERMINAL COMPANY.
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May 4, 1917