May 1, 1917

LIB

Edward Mortimer Macdonald

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD:

He always looks

pleasant.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF:

He is pretty good looking.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

then all I have to say is that I should not like to see him when he is looking unpleasant.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

The sadness of the Government's supporters would make anybody feel sad.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

My hon. friend looked pleasant in just the same sense that a man having his photograph taken looks pleasant-my hon. friend knows what I mean by that. He had very little sympathy for the high prices the farmers in the West were getting for their wheat. We often hear statements made as to the energy which Governments should devote in order to bring immigrants into this country, and I agree with all that has been said as to the desirability of the greatest possible activity being shown in bringing immigrants into this country; but the best immigration agent for Canada is a good price for wheat.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

The situation was the same last year as it is this year. Is that a new idea?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

My hon. friend the other night from his seat in the House rather jeered at the high prices which the farmers of the West were receiving for their wheat-

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I leave it to you, Sir; you were in the Chair.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

Perhaps I had better put it this way: I will not say that my hon. friend jeered at the high price of wheat; I will say that my hon. friend apparently had no sympathy with the high price which the farmer was obtaining for his wheat. The agricultural community is entitled to every possible consideration. Agriculture is the very base of our industrial fabric; the farmers are the real pro-

ducers; the pyramid rests squarely upon the base of agricultural production.' There is nothing too good for the farmers because they earn all they get ; they are not in any combines. I was raised on a farm; I know what it is to get up at five o'clock in the morning, and I know how the farmer earns his money. I know what he gets, he earns by hard work.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

George Perry Graham

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

Some times he earns

what he does not get.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

It is a good thing then that the farmer is getting a good price for his product. I do not know of anything that will relieve the high cost of living later more than the fact that there is a good price for agricultural products. What stimulates production is a good return for the effort expended and the capital invested; and that principle applies to agriculture as it does to any other business. I have no sympathy with stock exploitation, with stock gamblers or wheat gamblers, but I have great sympathy .with the farmer getting a proper price for his product.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

Would my ton. friend be good enough to elaborate that idea and show how high prices for agricultural products will reduce the cost of living. .

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

My hon. friend tried and failed in 1911 to establish that very thesis.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

And the Minister of Finance argued the other way then.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

My hon. friend was out ot the House when I pointed out that among other reasons why my right hon. friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) signally failed in 1911, was that he attempted to prove to the intelligent people of this country that the farmer would get more for his product and the consumer would pay less. My hon. friend would hardly expect me to embark upon that undertaking after the example of 1911.

Another argument of my hon. friend was: Why should we do this at this time with the price of low grade wheat at a dollar or $1.30, as the case may be, as it only means ten cents a bushel to the farmer? Well, ten cents on fifty million bushels means $5,000,000, and on twenty-five million bushe'ls, $2,500,000. Does my hon. friend mean to say that if this is a proper course for us to take in the national interest at this time of war conditions, the farmer in the West is not entitled to that ten cents? That was practically the argument of my

hon. friend the other night, and I was surprised at him making it.

To come to another matter. It was argued in 1914 and in 1916 that the milling industry might be injuriously affected by such a measure as this. Now, there are few industries in Canada that have had greater profits since the outbreak of the war than the milling industry; enormous profits have been made by the large milling companies. It has been suggested on the other side of the House, what about railways, what about the transportation situation? . Well, the war has materially changed that also. The war has changed the entire situation in Canada. What is the situation so far as the railways are concerned? My hon. friend from Assiniboia (Mr. Turriff) knows that wheat is not being taken out of the West to-day as it should be.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF:

Why?

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

Because of the

shortage of rolling stock.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF:

No.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

Because of the shortage of rolling stock and motive power.

Topic:   THE POTATO SUPPLY.
Subtopic:   THE BUDGET.
Sub-subtopic:   DEBATE ON ANNUAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
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May 1, 1917