Mr. F. B. CARVELL (Carleton, N.B.):
Mr. Speaker, the somewhat wonderful statement of the Minister of Militia reminds me of a quotation from the Bible which I think I can quote correctly: " The wicked flee when no man pursueth." I would like to know who ever asked the Minister of Militia to send our boys to the front with defective ammunition. I would like to know what a discussion about giving J. Wesley Allison a rake-off of $5,000 has to do with sending our boys to the front with poor ammunition. I want to answer the minister in a logical, fair manner, but it is pretty bard to do so, after listening to the arguments he has used. This is not a question of whether or not there was bad ammunition in Canada. If the Government bad1 poor ammunition or defective ammunition on their hands, this country has money enough to take charge of that and to throw it into the river, if necessary, and get good ammunition in its place. The question which we are bringing up here to-day, which was first brought up by the Auditor General-and I think, notwithstanding the dire threats made by the Minister of Militia, that once in a while it is a good thing for Canada that there is an Auditor General. The question brought up by him is the fact that defective ammunition was owned by the Dominion of Canada; that the Minister of Militia, through his counsellor, friend and guide, J. Wesley Allison, sold this, not to Vickers, but through Vickers, to the British Admiralty, at a rake-off of $5 a thousand rounds.