March 27, 1915

LIB

Alexander William Chisholm

Liberal

Mr. A. W. CHISHOLM:

The complaint is made in this report that the lifeboat is not adequate enough; I call the minister's attention to that fact.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

It ought to be self-righting. Is this boat an old boat?

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Angus Alexander McLean

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. A. A. McLEAN:

It is an old boat. I understand that the boat at Cape Tormentine is of the same type, and is of very little use.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

Is that an old boat?

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

It has been in use seven or eight years, I think. It is said that this boat does not possess the essential requirements of a proper life-saving boat. Has the minister given us all the information he has as to the quality of these boats?

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

I fancy that some of the boats which are being built to-day for lifesaving purposes are better than those which have been in use at the life-saving stations for a great many years. We are trying, little by little, to substitute better boats for those now in use. I have heard no complaint about the Cape Tormentine boat.

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

My information is that there is a better type of boat in use in the United States. Why was the life-saving station at Souris removed from where it was to where it now is?

This station was established in 1908 and the boathouse built upon some land supposed to belong to Mr. J. J. Hughes, M.P., for which a nominal rental of $1 was to be paid by the department.

In 1911 it became necessary to enlarge the boathouse, and for this more land was required. When the matter was taken up it was discovered that the boathouse was not on Mr. Hughes' land at all, but partly on land belonging to the estate of the late John McPhee and partly on land owned by Mr. John McLean. Mr. Hughes then offered a new lease of right of way at and through his lane with a proviso allowing him to terminate said lease on six months' notice. It was impossible to accept this offer as, if the right of way was withdrawn there would be no way of getting the boat and wagon to the railway.

Mr. Lord, superintendent of life-saving station, after looking into the whole matter, recommended the purchase of a site from Mr. J. A. Remick, to which the boathouse could be movej

before the addition was built, and the matter would then be settled denitely. After approaching Mr. Remlclc, Mr. Lord was advised by Messrs, Fraser and McQuaid, attorneys, that the property in question was owned by the estate of John McPhee and could only be sold or leased after authority had been obtained from the Court of Chancery.

On this being reported to the department the chief engineer advised having the land expropriated, which was accordingly done. The cost of the land was $76, being 76 feet at $1 per foot frontage and the building was moved on to it at a cost of $70. After moving the building was reported to be in good shape. On the 17th of February 1914, however, the boathouse was damaged by an exceedingly heavy easterly gale which occurred on that day. It was then decided that the building had been placed too far forward when moved and it was accordingly moved back a little further where it now it.

My ihon. friend asked me about this and asked me to have the information when the Naval Estimates came up.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

That does not appear to have been the opinion.

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

At all events it was on land that belonged to the McPhee estate, nobody claimed it, nobody asked any price for it or asked rent.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

Does my hon. friend know the firm of Murray and McQuaid ?

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

They advised that the land belonged to the McPhee estate. The land where it was belonged to two people, McPhee and John McLean.

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

I do not think the report is correct. It really was very difficult to move the building.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

It only cost $70.

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

The building had to be moved across a wharf, and it was injured in the moving, and it is not now in as good a site as before; it is not as well sheltered or so near to deep water.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

The Teport from Mr. Lord, superintendent of life saving stations for Prince Edward Island, is as follows:

With reference to the question: " is the new situation preferable to the old one?" I beg to state that the present site is infinitely better than the former one on account of the protection given by whiarf property owned by Messrs. Matthew and McClean and the railway wharf property.

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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES:

Mr. Lord was the man who selected the first site, and 'he thought it was the best ;in the harbour.

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March 27, 1915