March 27, 1915

LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

But the treasury would not have to pay the additional amount. We are asked by the different departments to go on voting these increases. It may be said that $3,000, or $4,000, or $5,000, in' one department does not amount to very much, but when you take all the departments the aggregate is a large amount and we find that instead of any effort being made to reduce in some other department, increases are made in different departments, notwithstanding the depression and the declining revenue and the fact that there must be much less necessity for all of these employees than there would be under normal conditions.

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CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

So far as my department is concerned the increase is not very large, and I have given the explanation. We were obliged to employ additional civil servants owing to the added duties developing upon the department. Since the - judgment rendered by the Privy Council on the question of incorporation of companies, the companies formerly incorporated under provincial laws believe that they are obliged to come to Ottawa and be incorporated anew under Dominion laws. It involves additional work and additional expense on the department and we have provided for that new expenditure by an additional sum of $5,000 in contingencies. Generally we ask for new employees, when required, through the Civil Service Commission, according to the law. Whether we obtained these em-

ployees from the Customs or any other department or from outside the service we would have to pay them just the same. The only question we have to consider in this committee is whether this department is in need of them.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

Would the minister explain the usefulness of this vote?

Contribution towards publication of International Catalogue of Scientific Literature, $500.

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CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

This catalogue is prepared by an international scientific society which publishes an index of scientific works and this is our share of the expenses. Copies of the index are distributed to the different countries contributing towards its publication and our copies are distributed among the universities in Canada.

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LIB
CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

I could not give the total but I know that our contribution is a very small part of the whole amount. We receive nine copies of the publication.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

It seems then that we are paying $500 a year and receive nine copies of the catalogue in Canada. I think the minister should .allow the item to stand until he secures some information as to the whereabouts of the society and the proportion of our contribution to the total cost of the catalogue.

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CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

It is published in Brussels. I am willing to allow it to stand. I may say that this item has never been questioned before.

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LIB
CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

The works are catalogued in the language in which they are published.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

Is the minister satisfied that this is a useful expenditure? If he is I have nothing further to say.

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CON
LIB
LIB

Edmond Proulx

Liberal

Mr. PROULX:

Have there been any applications this year by any counties in Canada to have referendums under this Act?

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LIB
CON
LIB
CON

Louis Coderre (Minister of Mines; Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CODERRE:

There -are three pending: one in Brome, one in Perth, and one in Nova Scotia, in Kings county, I believe.

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LIB

March 27, 1915