June 3, 1914

LIB

William Roche

Liberal

Mr. ROCHE moved:

That the following Orders in Council made by His Royal Highness the Governor General or His Excellency the Administrator in Council under the provisions of section 77 of chapter 20, 7-8 Edward VII 'The Dominion Lands Act' on the dates hereinafter mentioned, that is to say:

(1.) Order in Council P.C. No. 2917 dated 19th October, 1912, establishing regulations for the leasing and administration of school lands for the purpose of extracting fire-clay therefrom.

(2.) Order in Council P.C. No. 3257 dated 21st November, 1912, amending the regulations established by Order in Council of the 13th May, 1910, and amending Orders in Council, for the leasing and administration of Dominion lands containing limestone, granite, slate, marble, gypsum, marl, gravel, sand or any building stone so as to include the leasing of Dominion land containing deposits of clay.

(3.) Order in Council P.C. No. 3373 dated 4th December, 1912, rescinding the Order in Council of the 4th March, 1911, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (k) of section 76 of the Dominion Lands Act.

(4.) Order in Council P.C. No. 243 dated 6th February, 1913, amending the coal mining regulations established by Order in Council of the 20th of April, 1910, and amending Orders in Council, in regard to the maximum area of a coal mining location.

(5.) Order in Council P.C. No. 245 dated 6th February, 1913, prescribing regulations governing the sale of lands for irrigation purposes within certain defined limits as provided by section 34 of the Dominion Lands Act.

(6.) Order in Council P.C. No. 351 dated 17th February, 1913, amending the regulations for the leasing and administration of school lands for the purpose of extracting fire-clay therefrom as established by Order in Council of the 19th October, 1912.

(7.) Order in Council P.C. No. 446 dated27th February, 1913, amending clause 'P' of the regulations governing the granting of yearly licenses and permits to cut timber on Dominion lands, established by Order in Council of the 1st July, 1898, and subsequent Orders in

Council.

(8.) Order in Council P.C. No. 592 dated19th March, 1913, amending the regulations

for the leasing and administration of lands containing limestone, granite, slate, marble, gypsurh, marl, gravel, sand or any building stone, approved by Order in Council of the 13 th May, 1910, and amending Orders in Council.

(9.) Order in Council P.C. No. 775 dated 7th

April, 1913, amending the regulations governing the sale of coal mining lands in the Yukon Territory approved by Order in Council dated 21st January, 1901, by granting exemption from the payment of royalty for .a period of five years.

(10.) Order in Council P.C. No. 1101 dated 14th May, 1913, re-establishing regulations for the leasing of school lands in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta for petroleum and natural gas rights.

(11.) Order in Council P.C. No. 2587 dated 16th October, 1913, rescinding section 5 of the regulations for the disposal of petroleum and natural gas rights, established by Order in Council of the 11th March, 1910, amending Orders in Council, and substituting another section (5) in lieu thereof.

Copies of each of which Orders in Council were laid before this House on the 2nd day of February, 1914, for the approval of this House under the provisions of section 77, chapter 20, 7-8 Edward VII, and the same are now so approved.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   DOMINION LANDS AND FORESTS.
Sub-subtopic:   ORDERS IN COUNCIL APPROVED.
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Motion agreed to.


LIB

William Roche

Liberal

Mr. ROCHE moved:

That the following Orders in Council made by His Royal Highness the Governor General or His Excellency the Administrator in Council in accordance with the provisions of chapter 10, 1-2 George V, 'The Dominion Forest Reserves and Parks' Act' that is to say:

(1.) Order in Council P.C. No. 981 dated 30th April, 1913, extending and making applicable to lands within the forest reserves and parks, except, Elk park within the Cooking Lake Forest Reserve and the Buffalo Park Reserve, in the province of Alberta, the quarrying regulations and clay regulations established by Orders in Council dated 13th May, 1910, and 21st November, 1912.

(2.) Order in Council P.C. No. 1803 dated 19th July, 1913, amending clause (3) of the regulations governing the use of motor vehicles in the Rocky Mountains Park approved by Order in Council of the 8th April, 1911.

(3.) Order in Council P.C. No. 1943 dated 2nd August, 1913, amending the water-power regulations in accordance with the provisions of subsection 2 of section 35 of the Dominion Lands Act and subsection b, of section 17 of 'The Dominion Forest Reserves and Parks Act.'

(4.) Order in Council P.C. No. 2028 dated 8th August, 1913, rescinding the regulations established by Orders in Council of the 13th January, 1908, and 19th October, 1910, in accordance with the provisions of section 17 of The Dominion Forest Reserves and Parks Act, and substituting in lieu thereof.

(5.) Order in Council P.C. No. 2349 dated 24th September, 1913, rescinding section 75 of the regulations relating to forest reserves established by Order in Council of the 8th August, 1913, and substituting another section (75) in lieu thereof.

(6.) Order in Council P.C. No. 2875 dated 27th November, 1913, establishing regulations respecting buildings in Dominion parks, in accordance with the provisions of section 18 of 'The Dominion Forest Reserves and Parks Act.'

Copies of each of which Orders in Council were laid before this House on the 2nd day of February, 1914, for the approval of this House under the provisions of section 19 of 'The

Dominion Forest Reserves and Parks Act,' are now so approved.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   DOMINION LANDS AND FORESTS.
Sub-subtopic:   ORDERS IN COUNCIL APPROVED.
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Motion agreed to.


THE EMPRESS OF IRELAND DISASTER.


On the Orders of the Day being called:


CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

Yesterday the hon.

member for Carleton, N.B., (Mr. G'arvell) called attention to a news item published in the Ottawa Journal in which it was stated that the Marconi operator on the Lady Evelyn, post office boat at Rimouski, had refused to send marconigrams offered by persons who had been rescued at the time of the sinking of the Empress of Ireland. I promised to make inquiry about this, and I said I hoped that the statement was not true. I wired to Captain J. B. Pouliot, w7ho is in charge of the Lady Evelyn, and this is the answer which I received :

Rimouski, Que., June 1.

R. M. Coulter,

Ottawa, Ont.

Wireless operator appointed for Lady Evelyn by Postmaster General not arrived yet; had no wireless operator when we went to the rescue of the Empress of Ireland. After our arrival there inquired if there was a wireless operator saved; one was found and put in charge of our wireless to notify the station agent at Rimouski to have cars and clothes ready on wharf for the rescued and to send other messages required. He was not told to ask payment for messages sent I was told that his name was Ferguson.

Captain J. B. Pouliot.

This shows that to a certain extent the news published was perhaps true, but that our officers on board the steamer did not act in the way reported. I am very glad that is the case.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   THE EMPRESS OF IRELAND DISASTER.
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ELECTRIC RAILWAYS.


On the Orders of the Day being called:


LIB

Archibald Blake McCoig

Liberal

Mr. McCOIG:

Might I ask the Government if they have decided on any policy in reply to the large deputation that waited on them some weeks ago asking for Government assistance for the extension of hydroelectric lines throughout Ontario. I have had a number of inquiries from constituents and from citizens throughout the province asking if anything will be done. Have the Government decided on any policy?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   ELECTRIC RAILWAYS.
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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. L. BORDEN (Prime Minister):

The matter is still under consideration, but there will be no legislation introduced on the subject this session.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   ELECTRIC RAILWAYS.
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EMPRESS OF IRELAND INVESTIGATION.


On the Orders of the Day being called-


CON

John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. J. D. HAZEN (Minister of Marine and Fisheries):

I wish to take the opportunity to inform the House that Lord Mersey has consented to act as one of the commissioners to inquire into the recent unfortunate disaster on the river St. Lawrence, and we are informed that he will probably sail on the Mauretania on Saturday of this week. I might also inform the House that I have communicated with Chief Justice McLeod, of New Brunswick, who is also the local judge in Admiralty for that province, and Sir Adolph Routhier, exChief Justice of Quebec, who is the local judge in Admiralty of the Quebec district, informing them that, with their consent, it was my intention to appoint them members of the commission, with Lord Mersey. 1 have a reply from the Chief Justice of New Brunswick saying that he will act if it is the desire of the Government, and I expect a reply from the ex-Chief Justice of Quebec during the day. In addition to the three members of the Board of Inquiry it has been decided, after communication with the Board of Trade in Great Britain, to appoint four assessors. Two of them will be gentlemen with special knowledge of nautical matters, one a naval architect, and the fourth a marine engineer. It has not yet been decided what gentlemen shall be appointed assessors, but it has been decided that they shall be of the callings mentioned. I think that by to-morrow or the next day we shall be able to announce the names of the assessors. The date of the investigation will not be determined until the representative of the Board of Trade, Mr. Vaux, now on his way to Canada, arrives. The place of meeting will also be discussed on his arrival. It is our intention to ask Lord Mersey to act as chairman of the commission.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   EMPRESS OF IRELAND INVESTIGATION.
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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

This statement is very satisfactory as far as it goes. May I ask for some information as to a matter which appeared yesterday in the press to the effect that Captain Demers was holding a preliminary investigation with a view to weeding out unnecessary evidence? Captain Demers is certainly a very competent officer, but it is a very delicate matter that he should attempt to weed out any evidence which perhaps might be needed afterwards. It might be that there would be a conflict

of judgment between Captain Demers and the commission.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   EMPRESS OF IRELAND INVESTIGATION.
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CON

John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

If the statement mentioned Captain Demers, it was in error. It was not Captain Demers, but Captain Lindsay, the superintendent of pilots. This action was taken at the suggestion of the British Board of Trade, who thought it very desirable, before the formal investigation was held, that depositions should be obtained from different witnesses and facts ascertained as to witnesses whom it would be desirable to call before the commission. My hon. friend is aware that in the Canada Shipping Act provision is made for preliminary inquiries into shipping casualties. It is under the provisions of that Act that this preliminary investigation is being held, not with the intention of weeding out anything, because everybody feels that the investigation must be of the most thorough and complete character; but it is for the purpose of expediting the work of the commission when they meet by having information that will enable them more readily to get down to work.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   EMPRESS OF IRELAND INVESTIGATION.
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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

That is quite a difference.

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   EMPRESS OF IRELAND INVESTIGATION.
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IMMIGRATION OF HINDUS.


On the Orders of the Day being called:


LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

Has the Minister of the Interior any further information with regard to the difficulties at Vancouver with respect to Hindu immigration?

Topic:   QUESTIONS.
Subtopic:   IMMIGRATION OF HINDUS.
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June 3, 1914