April 27, 1914


The House in committee on Bill 143, respecting a patent of John Arnoldi.-Mr. Macdonell. Mr. Blondin in the Chair. On section 1-power to commissioner of patents for extension of patent:


LIB
CON

Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

This is a patent against whose renewal our department raise no objection. Arnoldi, the patentee, had paid in fees for two terms, that is twelve years, and then became very ill just before the final payment was due, so that he could not attend to his own business and would not allow anyone else to do so, and the third payment lapsed. The patent is the only thing left to the widow, who is the beneficiary legatee, and she asks that she may be allowed to revive it through this Bill. The Senate unanimously passed it, and our department raise no objection under the circumstances.

Bill reported, read the third time, and passed.

Topic:   PATENT OF JOHN ARNOLDI.
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PACIFIC, TRANS-CANADA AND HUDSON BAY RAILWAY COMPANY.


The House in committee on Bill 142, respecting the Trans-Canada and Hudson Bay Railway Company.-Mr. Douglas. Mr. Blondin in the Chair. On section 1-extension of time:


CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

I was unable, on account of the state of my health, to be here on Friday night, but I understand from leading 'Hansard' that some hon. gentlemen desired an explanation of this Bill. We have passed the Bill from the Senate as printed without any amendment. It iB the first extension of time asked for this line of railway, and, of course, to that extent the Railway Committee had some sympathy with it. It originated in 1912. The line runs from Edmonton to Port Nelson or Fort Churchill, and from Lone river to Peace river, crossing thence

through Laurier pass to Prince Rupert or Portland canal. It is about a thousand miles in length, and the capitalization in 1912 was fixed at $10,000,000.

Topic:   PACIFIC, TRANS-CANADA AND HUDSON BAY RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB
CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

I have not the original act of incorporation before me, so I cannot give that information. The only objection made in the committee was as to the name. One hon. gentleman thought that the words Hudson bay were objectionable, but he did not press the objection. The difficulty is that the company has had corporate powers since 1912 by the Act of this Parliament, and in the absence of some very good reason for making a change in name we did not like to make one.

Topic:   PACIFIC, TRANS-CANADA AND HUDSON BAY RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

What is the route of the railway from Edmonton? I am informed the route is through Athabaska Landing. If so, I shall be glad to consent to the extension of time, but if it is not routed through Athabaska Landing, I want it so routed as a condition of the extension of time.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

I wish to make very emphatic objection to the extension of time in the charter. Either the charter means nothing at all, or it means that .a railway will be built. If it means nothing at all, it should not encumber the statute book. There are certain railroads built, and building, to the northwest and to the northeast of Edmonton. If this railroad is to be routed approximately near Athabaska Landing, as the representative of that district, I want it routed through Athabaska Landing. I do not want this railroad to be able to hold up an established town that is adjacent to their proposed line of railway. If, on the contrary, it is routed to pass a considerable distance from Athabaska Landing I have nothing to complain of; but as the representative of that district I want to know what is the intention of Parliament in this matter, .and to have the interests of this established town protected so faT as Parliament can protect them.

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CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

I see that the section does make it an alternative.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

I notice that the original Bill provides that the company may build from a point at or near the city of Edmonton, thence northerly by the most feasible route to, at, or near Athabaska Landing.

I do not object to the words ' at or near ' in the case of Edmonton, which is an established city and railroad centre, and a railway constructed thereabouts would necessarily be constructed from Edmonton. The interests of the railroad would compel that, but in the case of Athabaska Landing the position is different, and I would like the committee to amend the charter in order to make the railway run through Athabaska Landing.

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CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

Perhaps we can do

that here. If the House is unanimous, we could strike out the words ' at or near.'

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LIB
CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

Then I would move

that a new section be added at the end of the Bill as follows:

Section 8 of chapter 134 of the statutes of 1912 is amended by striking out the words ' at, or near ' after the word ' to ' in the fifth line of the said section.

Topic:   PACIFIC, TRANS-CANADA AND HUDSON BAY RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB

George Perry Graham

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

Perhaps the hon. member had better give notice of that amendment; then it will not be necessary for him to be here when the Bill goes through.

Progress reported.

Topic:   PACIFIC, TRANS-CANADA AND HUDSON BAY RAILWAY COMPANY.
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PRINCE EDWARD AND HASTINGS RAILWAY COMPANY.


The House again in Committee on BilJ No. 93, respecting the Prince Edward and Hastings Railway Company.-Mr. Hepburn. Mr. Blondih in the Chair.


CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER:

Perhaps the committee would like a word of explanation. We are not changing section 1 at all, but we are changing section 3 by striking out the words ' from a point at or near,' so as to make the railway run from Brighton. They have authority to build from Trenton easterly to Belleville, thence northwesterly to Frankford, thence to Trenton; also a branch line to Picton and also three branch lines from Picton to Ferry Point, West Point and Black River, respectively. This authority is given in the original incorporation. Under -section 2 of the present Bill we are allowing a little additional construction.

Topic:   PRINCE EDWARD AND HASTINGS RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB

George Perry Graham

Liberal

Mu. IGRAHAM:

As the member tor

Prince Edward (Mr. Hepburn) is in his seat, perhaps he may explain section 2, which authorizes the construction of new lines from a point at or near Brighton by the most feasible route to Picton.

Topic:   PRINCE EDWARD AND HASTINGS RAILWAY COMPANY.
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April 27, 1914