May 30, 1913

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

What, generally speaking, are the dairying operations of the department?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

We are taking up vari-ous_ kinds of work. One of the important activities in which we are engaged is the extension of a system of what we call dairy record centres. Under this system we plaoe an expert, who thoroughly understands the use of a Babcock test, in charge of a certain district, and whose duty it is, within a certain radius to test the cows, the products of which are going to the creameries. The results of his tests are made known among the farmers who own the herds, in order that they may be instructed in the best methods of feeding and caring for their animals, and they may be enabled to tell which animals are paying and which are not. We have now nearly twenty of these centres.

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

There are nine or ten centres in various parts of the province of Ontario, and three or four in Quebec. We are establishing two or three in the maritime provinces; so far we have not gone into the western parts at all, except in one of the smaller districts of British Columbia.

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John Howard Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. SINCLAIR:

In what portions of the maritime provinces have these centres been established?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

In the maritime provinces we have not done very much as yet. There is a station at Clifton, New Brunswick; and we have one in Prince Edward Island, we are establishing a centre in the French Acadian portion of New Brunswick, and propose to extend the system during this, or certainly during, next year.

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

We have many of these points under consideration, so far as the expenditure which we propose

to make to enable us to do the work this year.

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LIB

John Howard Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. SINCLAIR:

Are these officers permanent? Do they remain the whole year in one locality?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

The officer works the whole year round, and by using the Babcock test he is enabled to tell the farmer the exact amount of butterfat contained in the product of each cow.

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William John Macdonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD:

Does he travel over a certain district, or is he permanently located in one place?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

He works within a certain radius, sometimes within a circle of twelve, fifteen or twenty miles.

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William John Macdonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD:

If it is the intention to establish a station in Nova Scotia, it would be desirable to have it located in the centre of the province. The hon. member referred to Yarmouth, and, while I have no objection to the establishment of one of these centres in the Yarmouth district, it is at the extreme end of the province.

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

I was speaking only

generally; it is not decided in what particular part of the province the centre will be located, but I know we are making arrangements to establish one in Nova Scotia.

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William Stewart Loggie

Liberal

Mt. LOGGIE:

Has any arrangement

been made for the establishment of one of these centres in the porth-eastern part of the province of New Brunswick?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

We are making arrangements to start work in that part of the country, I think in the county of Kent.

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William Stewart Loggie

Liberal

Mr. LOGGIE:

That district is perhaps the best farming portion of north-eastern New Brunswick.

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

It is not always advisable to start these things in the best sections. It is sometimes advisable to start them in the sections that are not so far advanced, so as to give better education to the people.

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

What are the prospects of an extension of this work in the prairie provinces?

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Martin Burrell (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURRELL:

I cannot answer my

hon. friend offhand. We have developed the work to a very considerable extent. We started four or five years ago with two centres I think, and we have gradually developed until we have seventeen or eighteen. It is quite obvious that we cannot extend the work to every portion of the country, otherwise we would commit ourselves to an enormous exnenditure. The result of the work has been so satisfactory that whereas one firm which had been Mr. BURRELL.

in the habit of selling fifty Babcock testers three years ago, sold during the past year one thousand for the use of individual farmers because the farmers knew the results of the tests we had been carrying on and knew what would be profitable and *what would not. The work was initiated by my predecessor, and we have tried to develop it, and nothing has done more good to the dairy industry than those cow tests.

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May 30, 1913