May 23, 1913

REPORT PRESENTED.


Supplement to the Annual Report of the Department of Marine and Fisheries, respecting the Indians of Canada.-Mr. Hazen.


OLD AGE PENSIONS.

CON

John Hampden Burnham

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURNHAM:

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member for Pictou (Mr. Macdonald), in view of your ruling of yesterday in regard to the report of the Old Age Pensions Committee, has suggested that this report be referred back to the committee. Therefore it is moved by Mr. Macdonald, seconded by myself, that the report of the Old Age Pensions Committee be referred back to the committee.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I have been looking into this matter, and I find that the report which was presented to the House has already been dealt with. The only recommendation in the report for which, I think, concurrence was desired, was with regard to printing, which would necessarily require to go to the Printing Committee. After the report was presented to this House, it was submitted to and was dealt with by the Printing Committee; therefore it could not be referred back.

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William John Macdonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD:

The circumstances

with regard to the report were these: A

sub-committee of the regular committee was appointed for the purpose of drafting a report. That committee did not meet, and the report as presented to the House, though assented to hurriedly by the different members, was not a full expression of the desires of the Committee. I submit that the opportunity to place properly before the House the findings and recommendations of the committee ought not to be barred by the assumption of authority on the part of any other committee of the House. In order that the matter might come before the House in proper shape, and that the views and opinions of the members of the committee might find proper expression, I suggested that the motion which has been stated by the hon. member for West Peterborough, should be made. In order that everything may be regular, and that the report of the committee may be made in proper shape, I would suggest that the consent of the House be given that the report be referred back to the committee.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I think the House had a right to assume that the report as presented by the chairman of the committee was a correct and regular report. As a portion of the report refers to printing, it

was, by what authority I do not know, referred to the Printing Committee. The Printing Committee having dealt with it, the House assumes that it was a proper report, and, in my judgment, it could not now be referred back.

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William John Macdonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD:

Except by consent of the House. Perhaps I may be permitted again to point out, with all due deference, that the control of the House over the report of any one of its committees is an absolute control, which cannot be abridged at any time by the assumption of authority on the part of any other committee. There is no great principle involved in the matter, except that the record may be proper; there is no political issue involved in it, and I would like to ask the right hon. Prime Minister, with a view to straightening the matter out, that he would consent to the passing of the motion.

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I am not thoroughly familiar with the various phases of the situation, and, if the hon. gentleman will let the matter remain until Monday, I will confer with His Honour the Speaker, and members of the committee, and see what can be done.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

From my knowledge of the situation, as the committee has not yet dissolved, I think that if they desire to give any further consideration to the subject matter which was referred to them, it would be quite in order for them to do so.

Motion stands.

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FIRST READINGS.


Bill No. 228, to incorporate the Pointe aux Trembles Terminal Railway Company. -Mr. Baker. Bill No. 229, for the relief of Albert Brit-nell.-Mr. Sharpe (North Ontario). Bill No. 230, respecting certain Patents of Otto R. Barnett.-Mr. Bennett (East Simcoe).


H. M. C. S. RAINBOW.

LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON:

I observed in the

papers last night a despatch to the effect that the Rainbow was being dismantled and the men dismissed. I would like to ask the hon. Minister of Naval Service if there is any truth in that report.

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John Douglas Hazen (Minister of Marine and Fisheries; Minister of the Naval Service)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAZEN:

I think there is no truth

whatever in the report.

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BOUNTY FOR MISS HUTCHINSON.


On motion of Hon. T. W. Crothers (Minister of Labour), the House went into Committee to consider the following proposed resolution: That it is expedient to authorize the Minister of the Interior to issue a Military Bounty Land Certificate to Miss Lois B. Hutchinson, as the sole heir and personal



representative of her deceased father, James Hutchinson, entitling her, or her substitute, to obtain, free of charge, an entry for a homestead of two adjoining quarter-sections of Dominion, lands, and to receive letters patent therefor, provided that such entry is made and obtained on or before December 31, 1913.


LIB
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Thomas Wilson Crothers (Minister of Labour)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CROTLIERS:

The facts in connection *with this matter have been pretty fully , set forth in the recital. They are as follows: The father of this young lady, the late James Hutchinson, was killed at Fish Creek in the year 1885. The same year a statute was passed providing for the issue of the military bounty certificate from the Militia Department for the conferring on men who were engaged in that outbreak two quarter-sections; the party in whose favour such warrant issued was entitled to locate two quarter-sections. The original Act provided that these locations should be made not later, I think, than some day in the month of August, 1886. The time for locating was from time to time extended, the last extension being made, I think, in 1906, until the 31st of December of that year. A warrant was issued in favour of the late James Hutchinson, but his daughter never located the scrip. At the time of her father's death she was a child in arms, her mother has since died, and she is the sole representative and heiress of her late father. It is thought well to grant her now what she would have *been entitled to prior to 1908 if she had not overlooked the locating of it. Of course it may be regarded as un undesirable precedent to pass such a Bill, but I am told by one of the officers of my department, Mr. Cote, that there is no other similar case before the department. I understand that when my hon. friend from Edmonton (Mr. Oliver) was Minister of the Interior, he considered the circumstances of this case and was in favour of introducing a Bill such as I am proposing to found on this resolution. I think this is a case where we should render this young woman the special privilege that is proposed under this resolution and the accompanying Bill.

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May 23, 1913