May 22, 1913

OLD AGE PENSIONS.


Mr. BURNHAM moved that the third report of the Select Special Committee appointed to inquire into an Old Age Pension System for Canada be adopted.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN:

What is the effect of this report?

Mr. WHITE (Leeds)

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John Hampden Burnham

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BURNHAM:

The committee present the result of their investigations, the evidence, and the communications sent out by the secretary, and the replies received, and they recommend that these be filed in the usual way and printed.

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Clarence Jameson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JAMESON:

As the committee have taken the evidence of a large number of witnesses during this and the preceding sessions, I think it well that the tentative conclusions which have been drawn from the evidence should be placed in ' Hansard.'

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Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

My attention has been drawn to this report, and I think its adoption would be irregular at this time. The report would involve considerable printing, which can only be done after the report has been referred to the Printing Committee. It would be a violation of the rules to concur in the report in this way. Then, I would say to the hon. member for Digby (Mr. Jameson), that, as this is an interim report of the committee, not- a final report, it would scarcely be in order to discuss the whole question which has been referred to the committee. I therefore think that the hon. member would be premature in discussing it now.

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Clarence Jameson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JAMESON:

I do not wish to question your ruling, but I had discussed this point with the hon. member for Pictou (Mr. Macdonald), who is a good parliamentarian, and he entertains the view that the question can be discussed now. If, however, you rule otherwise I shall bow to your ruling, although I think that the question is one that should be discussed.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The rule is well known, that it is not in order to discuss work that has been referred to a committee until there is a report from that committee.

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Clarence Jameson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JAMESON:

I regret that you

think that the discussion should be postponed, but I bow to your ruling.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

That is my ruling.

This report had better stand or be referred to the Committee on Printing.

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Clarence Jameson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JAMESON:

I respectfully request

that the motion be allowed to stand for the time being.

Motion stands.

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PRIVATE BILLS.

FIRST READINGS.


Bill No. 224, respecting the Western Trust Company.-Mr. Turriff. Bill No. 225, respecting the Great West Permanent Loan Company-Mr. Meighen. Bill No. 226, respecting the Alberta-Saskatchewan Life Insurance Company.- Mr. Meighen. Bill No. 227, respecting the Western Canada Accident and Guarantee Insurance Company.-Mr. Maodonell. . QUESTIONS. (Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


PASPEBIAC WHARF.

LIB

Mr. MARCIL:

Liberal

1. Has the Department of Public Works been asked to take over the wharf owned by Robins, Jones and Whitman, at Paspebiac, Quebec?

2. If so, has any decision been reached, and on what conditions is the said wharf to be acquired?

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NOUVELLE RIVER LAND DAMAGES.

LIB

Mr. MARCIL:

Liberal

1. Has the Government received any request, and from whom, for a grant to continue the work of protecting the farms, roads and bridges from the damage caused by the Nou-velle River, Bonaventure county?

2. If so, has the Government reached any decision in the matter and what is it?

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Mr. ROGERS: (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. Yes; from the municipality of St. Jean l'Evangeliste.

2. Matter under consideration.

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May 22, 1913