February 16, 1912

ROYAL ASSENT.

CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER.

I have the honour to inform the House that I have received the following letter from the secretary of His Royal Highness the Governor General:

Office of the Governor General's Secretary, Ottawa, February, 16th, 1912.

Sir,-I have the honour to inform you that the Eight Hon. the Chief Justice of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Royal Highness the Governor General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber this afternoon at 3.30 o'clock for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent to

certain Bills which have passed the Senate and the House of Commons during the present session of parliament.

I have the honour to he,

Your obedient servant,

H. C. LOWTHER, Lieut.-Colonel,

Governor General's Secretary. The Honourable, the Speaker

of the House of Commons.

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SUPPLY-CABLE RATES TO GREAT BRITAIN.


Mr. WHITE (Leeds) moved that the House go into Committee of Supply.


LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

Before you leave the Chair, I would like to draw the attention of the House for a few moments to the question of cable rates. This question has already come before the House in a previous debate, but I thought this occasion favourable for bringing it again to the attention of the country. We all know that the news received some months ago, through the channel of the Post Office Department, that cheaper nates had been granted toy the cable companies was welcome news to Canada. When it was announced to the House by the Postmaster General, I was the first one to congratulate him over this signal success of or# many efforts to obtain a reduction in the rates. For several years past, and notably, since the time of Sir William Mulock until the present, there has been a continuous effort on the part of our postal authorities to join hands with the many British subjects abroad who are interested in the solution of this problem, namely, cheap telegraphic communication between the mother country and the various British colonies. I said, however, to my hon. friend the Postmaster General when he announced some weeks ago that a small reduction in rates had been agreed to by the cable companies and the British government, that in my judgment it was but one instalment, and that we should expect more from future pourparlers between the companies the British Post office and our own post office authorities in Canada.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER.

I would like to say to the hon. member (Mr. Lemreux), before he speaks further, that it seems to me doubtful whether lie is not infringing a well understood rule of the House by anticipating a discussion of a notice on the order paper. The hon. member or Lamb-ton (Mr. Armstrong) has a notice on the order paper which now stands at the head of Public Bills and Orders.

Further consideration of the proposed resolution of Mr. Armstrong (Lambton), that, in the opinion of this House a commission should be appointed to investigate the systems of national telegraphs and telephones, wireless telegraphs and cables.

A discussion took place on that resolution, and now stands to be resumed. I would like to be advised by the House whether it is the judgment of the House that the hon. gentleman is or is not infringing the rule which would prevent another discussion taking place at the present time.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Air. LEMIEUX.

I somewhat anticipated the objection, hut I thought that, as the hon. member for Lambton (Mr. Armstrong) had a fixed purpose io his motion, that of the appointment of a commission to investigate these various questions and problems, my own motion-because I will conclude with a motion-would be in order. Of course, the hon. member for Lambton has mentioned several questions in his motion, while I desire to draw attention only to one of those subjects.

I think our purposes are different. My hon. friend .moves for a commission; I wish simply to obtain an expression of the opinion of the House my motion treads as follows:

That in the opinion of this House steps should he taken by the Postmaster Genera] of Canada with a view of obtaining further reduction in cable rates between Canada and Great, Britain.

I do not think the two motions clash.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER.

I wish again to submit the question to the judgment of the House. While there is considerable force in what the hon. gentleman (Mr. Lemieux) says, I >am not fully convinced that his motion is not an infringement of the rule. But if it is the desire of the House that the hon. member should continue, of course the Speaker lias no objection.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

I am in the judgment of the House. If my hon. friend the Postmaster General sees no objection I might be .allowed to proceed.

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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER.

The motion standing in the name of the hon. member for Lambton (Mr. Armstrong) seems to be along the same line as the motion of the hon. member for Rouville (Mr. Lemieux), whose motion, it is true, refers to only one of the many branches contained in the motion of the hon. member for Lambton. Personally I have no objection to this mutter being gone into. If the hon. member for Rouville wants a discussion of the matter in the House, it might help us

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As there seems to be some differ-v ence between the new motions, as this

is an important subject, and as the time to be occupied will not be very great, perhaps it might be considered in order.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER.

Is it the pleasure of the House that the hon. gentleman continue the debate?

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CON

David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

Before that motion is passed I would say that I think it would only have been fair to the hon. member for Lambton (Mr. Armstrong), to have had notice that this discussion was to go on so that he could have taken part in it. I understand that, under the rules of the House, he is debarred from continuing the discussion which he was obliged to drop at six o'clock on a Wednesday night, and which he will not be permitted again to take up. But, if the hon. member for RouviMe (Mr. Lemieux), is to be permitted this afternoon to discuss the same question, I think it only fair that the hon. member for East Lambton should have notice. He should have been notified, and he should have been given an opportunity of being here to take part in the discussion and to continue his speech to the end.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN.

I think that is fair, perhaps under the circumstances, and as my hon. friend from East Lambton (Mr. Armstrong), does not appear to be here, it might be convenient to postpone it until another day. When I suggested that the discussion might go on I was not aware that my hon. friend was not here.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

I do not wish to press the matter, but I may say that I understood the other evening that the hon. member for South York (Mr. Maclean), was allowed to proceed with a motion of a similar nature which dealt with one of the many subjects mentioned in the omnibus motion of the hon. member for East Lambton, and it seems to me that the same rule should prevail.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN.

I am not suggesting that it should not prevail, but I was suggesting that it would, perhaps, be convenient to postpone the debate until my hon'. friend from East Lambton is here.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

Under the circumstances I bow to the desire of the Prime Minister. We might fix a day when this question might be brought up. I have no objection under the circumstances to the postponement.

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Motion agreed to, and House went into Committee of Supply.


SUPPLY.


Ottawa-grounds, $25,000.


February 16, 1912