February 6, 1912

LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The question of naming: the winter wheat might be discussed. If the minister has any suggestions with regard to a title for that class of wheat, which will bring it into some sort of conformity with the proposition regarding spring wheat, it would be satisfactory to the commission to hear his suggestions.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

I suggested that these items should stand so that my hon. friends might think them over. 1 am quite willing to take into consideration the suggestion made a little while ago to see whether any further change in the name could be proposed, which the committee would, think advisable.

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CON

William D. Staples

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STAPLES.

I suppose the same suggestion would apply with equal force to Alberta winter wheat as to Manitoba?

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

Except that there is not so much of it raised.

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CON

William D. Staples

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STAPLES.

How would tbe^ word ' prairie ' apply instead of ' Canada '.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

It has been suggested that we should call it simply ' northern '. That however simply indicates climate and has no suggestion of nationality. You have northern wheat in Dakota and Russia. The same objection applies to the word ' prairie '. There are prairies in different parts of the world, so that the word is not distinctively Canadian. I should like to see a wheat which is really good and which we are sending out to the world's markets tagged with a distinctively Canadian name. To my mind * Canada ' is the most distinctive name we can apply. ' Canadian ' is an adjective, and an adjective is not as strong as a substantive.

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CON

Frederick Laurence Schaffner

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SCHAFFNER.

The question is whether we want to make any distinction between hard wheat grown in the west and hard wheat grown in eastern Canada.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

We make that distinction by calling it hard.

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Frederick Laurence Schaffner

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SCHAFFNER.

You may have hard wheat grown at the North Pole.

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George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

Well, I would not like to repress any optimism which might be in the minds of the committee.

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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF.

I see that flax is not included in the eastern schedules at all. I would suggest, while leaving this section stand in the meantime, that instead of No. 1 Northwestern Manitoba flax you make No. 1 Canadian flax-either Canada or western Canada.

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^ Mr. SCHAFFNER. I think that eastern 'Canada -and western -Canada would be good definitions.

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CON

Frederick Laurence Schaffner

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SCHAFFNER.

Why prefer that in the case of flax and not in the case of wheat? Flax is also grown in eastern Canada.

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CON

William D. Staples

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STAPLES.

Is there any difference in quality between eastern and western flax?

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

There has been a suggestion put forward with regard to No. 3 barley, described on page 29, which might be considered now. The definition reads:

No. 3 Manitoba barley shall include shrunken or otherwise slightly damaged barley, weighing not less than 45 pounds to the bushel.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

I propose to amend that.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

I shall read the amendment, so that it may be under advisement. It is proposed that No.

barley shall be reasonably clean, reasonably free from all other grains, shall include weather stained, and slightly shrunken, but sound barley, free from frost and weighing not less than 44 pounds to the bushel.

The intention of having it free from frost is so that it may keep its malting properties perfectly good. A little frosting of the barley, I understand, destroys its malting properties. No. 4 barley should include all damaged barley, weighing less than 44 pounds to the bushel. This will appear in ' Hansard ' and can be thought -over.

On section 110.-standard samples.

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David Bradley Neely

Liberal

Mr. NEELY.

I notice subsection 3 reads:

The board may reject such standard samples if it deems them to have been unfairly or improperly chosen, and in such case it shall forthwith cause others to he chosen in their place hy such means as it thinks proper.

I was not here when we discussed the powers of the Grain Survey Board, but if the Bo-ard of Grain Commissioners are to have the same authority with regard to the supervision of the selecting of samples or standards by the Survey Board of Canada wheat, I think there is an anomaly we ought to correct. As I understand it, the Board of Grain Commissioners, while supposed to be good 81

business men understanding the conditions of the grain trade, are not necessarily grain experts in the selecting of the samples of grain and the establishing of standards.

The Grain Survey Board, I understand-, is composed of men technically expert in collecting samples and establishing standards for commercial grades, and I think that the decision of such a board should not be subject to revision or supervision by the board of commissioners.

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February 6, 1912