February 6, 1912

CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

I would object to making any change in the weight of oats. It is a well understood thing in Ontario as well as in the other provinces, that 34 pounds is a bushel of oats and, therefore, I do not think it would be wise to adopt an American standard in preference to the standard that is so well understood in every part of Canada.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

The matter of standards of these different grains is -entirely technical. The representatives of the farmers, the Grain Growers' Association, of the millers, and others, have all had the Bill and have been interviewed in connection with it, and the conclusion has been not to materially disturb these grades in- either weights or definitions. I would not care to assent to such a change without a general consensus of opinion.

On section 105,

grades- of grain,-'barley.

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LIB

Levi Thomson

Liberal

Mr. THOMSON (Qu'Appelle).

There is no standard weight for No. 1 barley, while for all others there is. Then with peas no weight is given. This seems to be copied from the old Act.

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George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

There was none in the old Act. It seems that the grade of barley is imponderable; there is no weight in the present Act, there is no weight in Bill 'Q' and there is no weight in this one. I imagine we ought not to be daring enough to put a weight in.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

I quite disagree with the minister; I think we should be daring enough to do what is right.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

We will let the provision with reference to -barley stand.

On section 105-peas,

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

Before we pass from this part of the section, section 58 -gives the standard weight of the different grains and it sets down peas a-s 60 lbs. to the bushel.

-Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto). That is provided for there.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The western producer is not seriously interested in this provision, but the eastern producer is, and as the eastern representatives do- not probably have the Bill before them, I take the opportunity of -drawing the minister's attention to the fact that under the Act as it stands peas of tall grades would have the same weight, 'and the weight would be 60 lbs. to -the bushel. 1 think also that the weights should be put right into the section defining the grade as in other cases.

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George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

The weight -of barley is given -as 48 lbs. to the bushel.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

Yes, the standard -weight, but I think that in- all cases-, for the convenience of -people who desire to use the Act, -and inasmuch -as -there is a -difference between, grades, the weight of each grade should -be stated in- the section which defines the grade.

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George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

Yes, that is right.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

I would think that as subsection 1 of the barley division stands, the whole division relating to peas should stand for consideration in the interest of the eastern producer.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

The definition of the grading of pea-s never appears to have had t-he weight put in at all. The general weight governing that is fixed at 58 lbs.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

I am not an expert in peas, but I would think thia-t No. 3 grade should not properly have the full weight of No. 1 grade. The interests -of the trade would require -a sealing down of the weight, but, I -am not -able to speak authoritatively upon it.

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George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

I will look into it.

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LIB
CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

Section 105 stands.

On section. 107-grades in western inspection -division,

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mir. OLIVER.

The last words of -the first paragraph of section 107 ref-er to ' the last preceding section.' That is section 100, but they -should refer -to section 105.

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CON

George Eulas Foster (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER (North Toronto).

Section 105 and -section 106.

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LIB

Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

Yes.

Mr. FOSTER (N-ortih Toronto) Then, Mr. Cii-airm-an, I move to -amend the first paragraph of section 107 by inserting the word ' two ' between- -the words ' last ' and ' preceding,' and -substituting the word ' sections ' for the word ' section.'

Amendment -agreed to.

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February 6, 1912