May 18, 1911

LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

This is to pay the salaries, expenses and outfitting of the geological parties in the field. Some of them are in the field now, and the rest are going out. We want the whole item if possible. We might be able to do with two-thirds. The expenditures are entirely during the summer. The expenditures are being made now; many of these parties are out in British Columbia, and one or two in the Yukon. Excepting the head of each party, who is an officer of the Geological Survey, all the rest of the men are hired, and have to be paid their monthly wages. We will probably require the whole amount. It would be very desirable if the House would vote the whole sum.

That was not in the list but it was mentioned las't evening.

Harbours, rivers and bridges-general repairs and improvements, $40,000.

Kincardine-repairs to piers, $1,500.

Lake Nipissing-improvement of navigable channel in west arm leading through Shanty lake to Monetville, $3,500.

L'Orignal-repairs to wharf and freight shed, $1,000.

McGregor's creek-to pay W. F. Smith, $2,500; O'Keefe and Drew, $320, and the executors of the Poile estate, $1,500, in full and final settlement of all claims for losses sustained owing to damages caused to their properties in the city of Chatham by dredging performed in the creek by a government dredge, $4,320.

Montreal river-removal of boulders in Flat rapids, $3,000.

Pembroke-repairs to wharf and approach, $3,500.

Pelee Island-repairs to west dock, warehouse and approach, $1,000.

Port Hope-repairs to piers-to construct new superstructure on counterfort on west side of harbour and effect general repairs, $5,000.

Providence bay, Manitoulin island-warehouse built on stone embankment protected by cribwork, $3,650.

Rainy river-improvements at mouth, $60,000.

That is dredging work.

River Sydenham-second outlet from Chenal Ecarte to Mitchell's bay-protection of banks at Martin island with pile work, $1,000.

Saugeen river-repairs to north and south piers, $1,000.

Sheguiandah-Manitoulin island-repairs to wharf to make good damage by ice shoves, $4,000.

Southampton-harbour improvements, $3,000.

South Nation river-improvement of waterway, $4,000.

Thornbury-repairs to wharf, $1,000.

If any hon. gentleman would state any objection to any item to which there is objection, I would be quite willing to drop it.

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George Halsey Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY.

I think a chance should be given to the members to make inquiries and ask questions. If we grant one-half now, as we do to the Minister of the Interior, that would give the minister two-thirds altogether. That ought to be sufficient.

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CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

They are all objectionable. We have no objection to giving the hon. gentleman the proportion arranged for, but we can go no further.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Will you give a few of these in addition to what (has been done?

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

No, I do not think so. Ttie hon. gentleman will not need this money until the end of July when we will be back here. There is no reason for giving more than that called for by the arrangement made between the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I w*ill not discuss the matter. Of course, if it is understood that hon. gentlemen are not willing to allow these items for repairs and work to be done by the day, the responsibility will

not be upon me. In Manitoba there is one item of $8,000 for general repairs and improvements. Repairs are needed in many places, the men have to be employed 'by the day, and I am -sure the public interest will suffer if that work is not done. Is there any objection to that?

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

There will not be many men employed on day work until after the 18th of July. There will be the five-twelfths of the estimates available which will provide more than is required.

Mr. PUGSLEY'. I understand that is objected to?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Very well. Now in Saskatchewan and Alberta there are four items that I urgently ask for. There is the item of:

Harbours, rivers and bridges-general repairs and improvements, $20,000.

These are in remote districts where it is necessary to send men to work by the day, and it will he extremely inconvenient if these men have to be recalled.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

They are on the Saskatchewan and Peace rivers and Great Slave lake.

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William D. Staples

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STAPLES.

What is the nature of the work?

I am sure that there will be no objection to giving him whatever he wants if *he makes out a good case. But, an arrangement has been entered into between the two leaders.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I did not asume that ,to be the case because when we come back on the 18th July we have special business to take up, but if the leader of the opposition will make that statement, or if my hon. friend speaks with the authority of the other side, Ihen it will be different. I was assuming that when we come back we will not get into supply again perhaps until the autumn.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

That is the minister's own look-out. I think that the position that we now take is absolutely reasonable under the circumstances, and we should not be expected to make pledges from one to the other. An arrangement was made and we propose to abide by it.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Then I am to understand that in respect of all the itetas for harbours and rivers in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, the maritime provinces generally, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia, every item is objected to?

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CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

You have the five-twelfths?

Mr. PUGSLEY'. Except what has been allowed.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Removing boulders, improving rapids, doing bridge work and making general improvements to assist navigation in the interest of the traders and settlers.

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George Henry Bradbury

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADBURY.

Do I understand that five-twelfths of these estimates have been arranged for?

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May 18, 1911