lin government, and whose character and business ability cannot be questioned by any Conservative in this House or out of it. He has given his full adhesion to this agreement and has declared himself absolutely opposed to the tactics of the Manitoba legislature and every other machinery put in motion against this contract. I submit that the opinion of Mr. Scallion and of the Grain Growers' Association as represented by Mr. Henders and the other opinions we have seen in the press give us full evidence and full assurance that if any gentleman from Manitoba speaks in this House against this resolution he is not representing the mind of the great province of Manitoba or of the great interests of that province. Now passing through the province of Manitoba I will deal with the resolution that *as before the House in Saskatchewan the other day. I am sure it must have been a startling revelation to our Conservative friends to find so prominent a man as the leader of the opposition of the legislature of that great province coming out fearlessly and openly and declaring himself in favour of this compact. I was in this House in 1905 when there was a great controversy in the west and the great leader in the Conservative party then was Mr. Haultain. He was held up as a great man, but I presume he is no less great a man to-day than he was held to be by the Conservative party in this House when we were asked to follow his lead and take his opinion on the great question in the west in 1905. If he was such a leader then I presume our Conservative friends will be prepared to accept his opinion today. I submit that there is not a man in either of the western provinces who has had a better training in political matters than this hon. gentleman. He was premier of the Northwest Territories for a great number of years and had an opportunity of studying conditions in that country. There is nothing as far as I know or can judge to indicate that he had any other reason in the world for breaking with his party on this subject. I suppose that everything would be the other way. He was the leader of a great party in a great province, and if he had the right end of it by standing by his leaders in this House and in the country I should certainly suppose he would stand by his party. I submit that the evidence is that in coming out in support of this policy he has given his best judgment to what he conceives to be the best interests of his people. In conclusion Mr. Haultain said:
We out here are just as able as the magnates in the east to decide what is patriotic and unpatriotic. I am not prepared to sit at the feet of any of these eastern Gamaliels and study loyalty.
Mr. McKenzie. .
But that is a sweeping indictment by so able a gentleman as the leader of the opposition in Saskatchewan. He is not going to sit at the feet of Gamaliel Borden, Gamaliel Foster or Gamaliel Whitney or any other Gamaliel from the east; he is prepared to take his own course. He would not even follow the lead of our hon. friend Gamaliel Maclean, who has been addressing the House. I suppose he would put him in the same pot as the other Gamaliels and pursue his own course. I am satisfied that so far as the west is concerned we have the judgment and opinion of as good a man as can be put on the stand in favour of this agreement and against those who for party purposes are opposing it.
I received from a member for the west this afternoon some evidence that seems to me very striking. In the great province of Saskatchewan they have 51 members, local and dominion. I am told, Sir, on the authority of an hon. member from that province that out of 51 there is only one man who is opposing this contract. That one man is the hon. member for Qu'Appelle (Mr. Lake) in this House. All the rest are in favour of the agreement. That would look as if, should we accept the challenge that is often thrown out to go before the country, that there is at least one province in which we are sure of a very fair majority because there is in that province only one of those who is elected who dare express an opinion against this agreement.
I do not think that there is veTy much more I should say in support of this proposal. I have pointed out that everything in the contract which I have read is in favour of the Canadian people and in favour of fair mutual trade relations between the two countries.