Mr. P. E. BLONDIN (Champlain).
(Translation.) Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege to present the motion of which notice has been given two days ago to the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries (Mr. Brodeur) and to the hon. member for Richelieu.
Neither the hon. minister nor the hon. member will be surprised at my mov". because they already know since a long time the facts which I will communicate to the House.
I would have been particularly grateful to them if, during the long months that have elapsed since, they had undertaken, themselves, as is was proper, to avenge the honour of the minister and the reputation of the member. But they
have done nothing. They have kept about the whole thing a very long silence which I would dare to qualify as incriminating. I for one cannot allow this silence to last longer without feeling myself as conniving, or at least as.failing seriously in my duty as a member of this House.
I shall read in English the declaration and the motion, and with your permission, Mr. Speaker, I shall read in French, in their original form, the affidavits which have been given me. I have 'added also, since the notice I have given, the years 1908 and 1909 to the year 1910, because new affidavits have come to me.
I, Pierre Edouard Blondin, a member of Parliament for the electoral district of Champlain, in the province of Quebec, Dominion of Canada, declare that I am credibly informed, and I believe that I can establish by satisfactory evidence:
10. That in the course of the years 1908, 1909 and 1910, irregularities, abuses, frauds, malversations and robberies have been committed in the shops and stores of the government of Canada at St. Joseph of Sorel and in the city of Sorel, in the electoral district of Richelieu;
20. That barrels aud tins of paint and other goods of this nature have been illegally and fraudulently taken and carried away from the said stores and shops and transported to the house of Mr. Adelard Lanctot then and now a member of the House of Commons of Canada, for the electoral district of _ Richelieu, which house was then being built on George street, at Sorel above mentioned, and ready to be painted;
30. That with these goods and paint, paint-works, decoration and varnish works, have been done by the employees of the government of Canada under the supervision of the painters' foreman employed by said government at the said jilace, at the government's expense and during the hours supposed to be devoted to the government and for which said employees were paid by the government, these men registering each day as if they had really worked for the government, and this during weeks and months; the materials and time, thus furnished, are valued at about one thousand or twelve hundred dollars;
40. That said goods were so fraudulently appropriated to, and said work so fraudulently done at the expense of the government of Canada for the benefit of the said Adelard Lanctot then and now a member of the House as aforesaid with his knowledge, assent and approval, the said Adelard Lancjtot abusively and fraudulently profiting at the public expense and to the public detriment by bis position of member of the House;
I found the belief I have just expressed upon affidavits which I desire to read and produce in support of the motion I am about to make:
Province of Quebec,
District of Richelieu.
I, the undersigned, Alfred Douaire, painter, of the city of Sorel, 51 years of age, solemnly declare:
That I have been in the employment of the federal government at its shipyards situated at Saint-Joseph de Sorel, from January, 1906, inclusively to the 5bh of November, i910, as painter under the orders of J. Bte. Page, foreman of the painters department at the said shipyards, during the last two years;-that during these two said years, principally during the last year, and especially in July, August and September, 1910, I have been requested by the said J. Bte. Page to go to Sorel, at the house of Mr. Adelard Lanctot, M.P., then being built on George street, in order to paint, cement, polish and varnish, &c., &c., the said house and that, as it was well understood, after having registered at the shipyard as present and working on behalf of the government, and my departure each morn-in!.' was to be from the said shipyard.
That, as a matter of fact, I regularly registered and punched as previously mentioned, and that in conformity with my orders I left the shipyard each working day and went, as above stated, during the months of July, August and September, 1910, to the said Lanc tot house, where I have worked at the painting, varnishing and staining of the said Lanctot house.
That this work was also done in part by *Messrs. Theodore Emond, Edmond Brault, Adelard Letendre, Alberique Letendre, Omer Page, Arthur Trempe, Louis Paul, Adelard A lie, all painters, employed at the time by the said government, and on the working hours due to the government and each of them having punched at the same time as myself as aforesaid.
That during the time that work was going on, the said J. Bte. Page and Adelard Lanctot, M.P., were visiting the job from time to time, looking at the progress of the work, Page giving orders for having some paint brought from the shipyard and also fo.r the execution of the work, and that, many times to the knowledge and cognizance, and in the presence of the said Adelard Lanctot,-this gentleman knowing also where the paint came from and that the work was being done by employees of the government whom . he was seeing often and often at work.
That_ the said Adelard Lanctot never spoke of paying these painters, and in fact was not paying them, but they were regularly paid their salaries by the government at each pay day, as if they had worked for the department.
That the above mentioned persons who have worked with me at this painting have given to that work, some four weeks, and others from four to ten weeks.
I positively declarethat Mr. Adelard Lanctot knew at the time that the paint and other goods which were used in the painting of his house, were coming from the said shipyard of the government; 2. that this work was done by the then regular employees of the government who were paid, for the time they were doing that work, by the government itself, and that for that purpose the time of each employee was punched as employee of the government.
On the seventh day of December, 1910, at 10 p.m., Mr. Alfred Lavallee, lumber merchant, of Sorel, came to my house at Sorel, asking Mr. BLONDIN.
me to go immediately to the house of Mr. Adelard Lanctot, at Sorel, who desired to see me without fault; I went immediately and found Mr. Lanctot who was waiting for me and who, after the ordinary salutations, showed me and read me the solemn declaration which I had given during the said month of December to the same purpose as the present one, and spoke to me the following words:-* Is it you, Mr. Donaire, who gave this affidavit?' I answered: 'Yes.' He added: ' You have signed it?' I answered 'Yes.' He asked me if I would see Albert Thibaudeau and try to lay my hand upon certains papers relating to this affair, which he did not like to see circulating. I answered that it was not easy to get hold of these documents, principally the affidavit dated at Sorel. the 30th of November,, 1910. Mr. Lanctot added: ' I will look to that myself, and I will try to get hold of them. Mr. Lanctot wanted me to change my course of action, lie offered me a position under the government, which I refused. He told me that if some one was troubled about that affair, principally Mr. J. Bte. Page, I would be treated the same way he would be. I answered that I was not afraid. Before leaving, I told him that the affidavit which lie had in his hands, and which he .got, I did not know from whom, was true and signed by me in perfect knowledge and without any outside influence, as
I gave the present one.
, And I make this solemn statement, believing it conscientiously to be true, and knowing that it lias the same force and effect as if it was made under oath, under the witness law of Canada, and I have signed.