January 20, 1911

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

I think I can advise the minister that it was not in previously. I have the proceedings for 1908. Would the minister kindly explain if the old drill hall was burned down or carried away by a flood? _

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

No. I may say that I am. substituting this for a building which did appear. There was a skating rink which appeared and I decided to drop that item and put this drill hall in for the cadets.

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

I have the estimates for 1908 and I will read the Kingston items* for the information of the minister :

Kingston Koyal Military College, new quarters, additional amount.

Kingston post office, addition to building and alterations to fittings.

Kingston military buildings, repairs and renewals to blocks A, C and E, Tete du Pont barracks, &c., inclusive of electric ligthing, &c.

That is all the Kingston buildings. I do not know which of these items relates to this vote.

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

It is being gone ahead with contrary to the pledge the minister gave in 1909, and it does not come within the exception of fire or flood. Will the minister explain why this is being gone ahead with in preference to buijdings that were in the estimates for 1908?

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

We had some items for the year 1907-8, I am quite sure. I do not profess to keep all these things in my head, but my recollection is that we dropped some two or three items for Kingston which did not seem to be quite so urgent as this drill hall and we put in an amount for the drill hall. This seems to be very urgent. Kingston Military College is doing a splendid work_ for the young men of the country, this is urged by the college authorities and we do not think that we ought to postpone any longer in providing for it.

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

I am afraid the minister is not very accurate. All that vote in the 1908 estimates appears since as being pursued. I see nothing dropped. Is the minister going to assert that all that is necessary to any one of those later items is simply to assure the committee that they appear to be very urgent and consequently he has decided to go on ? If so, the pledge which he made in 1909 was just so much chaff and straw.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

If they were urgent and parliament voted the money last year why did he not spend it ?

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William Cameron Edwards

Liberal

Mr. EDWARDS.

There is another question that I would like to put to the minister in connection with this building. 1 notice that the item is for $15,000. I will not be very certain that I am correct, but I think I am correct in saying that we were informed earlier in the session that any militia buildings, the cost of which was not to exceed $15,000, were sujtposed to come under the supervision in their construction of the Minister of Militia; that is, that the Minister of Militia was supposed to be capable of looking after the construction of a building that did not cost more than $15,000.

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William Cameron Edwards

Liberal

Mr. EDWARDS.

Of course, that puts it beyond the intellectual powers, I suppose, of the Minister of Militia. We have to assume then that he is only capable of looking after the construction of a building that does not cost more than $15,000, but when the cost exceeds $15,000 it requires^ a person of the mental calibre of the Minister of Public Works to look after it. In that case, there are many buildings which, in my opinion, might be constructed for $14,000 or $15,000 which will cost a little more than that, so that the Minister of Public Works will get the handling of them.

Kingston Royal Military College, additional dormitory accommodation for cadets, $30,000.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

It is a new building. My hon. friend no doubt, has heard of the demand for this. I visited the Royal Military College, I saw the officer in command and he called my special attention to the necessity for another dormitory for the students of the college. He said that they needed that perhaps more than anything else in connection with the college buildings.

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

I understand the minister to say that this is also a new building ?

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January 20, 1911