May 3, 1910

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

Will they be officials of the government or outsiders?

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George Gerald King

Liberal

Mr. KING.

I think they will not be officials of the government.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

I think that in appointing a commission of that kind some particular official, such as the deputy minister would be better qualified to inquire into matters of that kind than possibly some politician who does not know anything about technical education. I suppose this is to be put through to give a trip to the old country to four or five politicians who will bring back a report. The minister has visited these different countries, and knows something about this matter. Instead of sending such a man, probably four or five political heelers will be sent to investigate the industrial situation in these countries.

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LIB

George Gerald King

Liberal

Mr. KING.

I can assure the hon. gentleman that the aim of the government in the selection of the personnel of this commission will be to obtain men eminently qualified to render useful service to the country in connection with the work which they are called upon to perform. They will be chosen primarily for their ability to give satisfactory service on the commission. As to Mr. Acland. the deputy minister of the department, acting, I quite agree it would be difficult to find any one who would fill a position of that kind more ably, but the commission will possibly be engaged in thi3 work for a year and the deputy's services will be required in the department here. What is true of the deputy in this respect is also true as respects other officers of the department.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

We have heard that story before about the government engaging'men with knowledge of these affairs, but generally some one who knows nothing about the subject is appointed. The minister, while acting as deputy minister, was sent abroad, he was all over the world, and since he has been a minister he has again been all over the world inquiring about these technical matters. He has had his deputy all over the world, and yet he comes here to-night and says he does not know anything about technical education and has to appoint a commission to tell him what he shall do. When the minister was appointed to his present position, the reason given was that he knew so much about industrial matters. There were members in the House who had served for a number of years and who knew all about political matters but they were turned aside, they knew nothing about industrial matters. These men have served their party, fought the battles. There is the hon. member for North Bruce (Mr. Tolmie) who knows all about it; there is the hon. member for Kingston (Mr. Harty) who has employed labour, and we have a number of men from Ontario qualified to fill that position, but still the Prime Minister had to bring the deputy in because he knew so much more than these gentlemen did. I think it is a reflection on a gentleman of the ability of the hon. member for South Wellington for instance, that he should have been passed over and the deputy minister brought in. The Prime Minister should at once depose the Minister of Labour and bring in the member for Wellington or some gentleman like that. I believe that hon. gentleman does know something, even although he has not travelled abroad, and judging from its being necessary to appoint this commission, the minister certainly is not qualified for the position after all his travels.

Library of parliament, $30,212.50.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Is it contemplated to build a new library soon or to do over the

present one? The library, it seems to me, has got to be a disgrace to parliament.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

No. The matter has been talked of from time to time, but no steps have been taken. I rather agree with my hon. friend: the library is overcrowded, and the time is close at hand when some reformation will have to be made.

Royal Northwest Mounted Police, $753,000.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

There is an increase of $5,000 in the pay of the force, and a decrease of $5,000 in subsistence, which makes the total amount the same as last year.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Why should there be an increase in pay and a decrease in subsistence?

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

The increase in pay is due to the fact that we have increased the force from 600 men to 700; and as the country is getting settled, our subsistence is a little cheaper than it was formerly.

Royal Northwest Mounted Police - rifle range, Regina, $15,000.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

That is a pretty big price to pay for a piece of land for a rifle range. How many acres does it take?

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

296 acres.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

That is about $65 an acre for land in the North West. Does the Prime Minister know that there is any amount of land given away there for the settler?

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

Not in Regina.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

You do not have to have the rifle range inside the city limits.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

We have to have it where our barracks are. At present we have a 1,000 yards range, and this is to give us a 2,000 yards range.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

This is the first time I have heard of land being sold for $65 an acre in the North West. Around Regina, if they can get $30 or $40 an acre, with buildings and improvements, they think they are getting a very good price. $63 an acre for vacant land seems to be quite a big price.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

It is in strong con-tiast with the lands of the Indians at Selkirk that sold for $5 an acre.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

From whom was this land purchased?

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May 3, 1910