April 21, 1910


Manufacturer of Lumber, Exporter of Canned Lobsters and Fresh Fish. Richibucto, N.B., 22nd April, 1904. D. H. Waterbury, Esq., Richibucto, N.B. Dear Sir,-With further reference to your conversation in re land opposite the public building in Richibucto, I will sell the whole lot on the eastern side of Water st., the full width of the present lot owned by the government, i.e., 227 feet in width and running back to the channel 625 feet for one thousand dollars ($1,000). Or I will sell the 227 feet on the street running back to a depth of 100 feet for five hundred dollars ($500). Yours truly, (Sgd.) R. O'LEARY.


LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL.

Just to put the hon-member (Mr. J. D. Reid) right, I may explain that the government have now sold

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

all but 200 feet, and that strip runs from( Water street, the six hundred odd feet to the river front. So, they are now getting practically the same amount of land which Mr. O'Leary wanted to sell to the government five years ago at $1,000.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

And much better situated.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

But $1,000 is what he offered it for-227 feet. And now the government are paying $1,500 for 200 feet.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Yes, but infinitely the best part of the property.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

It is a part next to the railway wharf, and must be the best.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

I would like to know how it was that on March TO, when he was so anxious to assist these gentlemen by buying that wharf-

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Not anxious to assist them.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

Yes, on March 10 he bought this municipal wharf for these four gentlemen.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Not for them-for the public benefit.

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CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

For the use of the Kent Northern railway, and they are practically the only ones who get any use of it. I ask how it was that he did not realize then that it wras necessary to have the other wharf too? Within a few months, the minister comes to the conclusion that it is necessary to have so much more wharf property at Richibucto. And there is another peculiar thing. The minister wrote to Mr. Stead censuring him for not taking a little more care in finding out the value of the property. We know that Mr. Stead was there on the 20th of May, and there is every reason to believe that he saw the deed and knew the consideration. But, he never went to Mr. O'Leary to find out anything about what he had sold the wharf for. The minister censured him for that. But, is it not a fact that the minister has increased Mr. Stead's salary since then? That goes to confirm the statement I made in this House many times, that the minute an official in any one of these departments commits a wrong act his salary is immediately increased. But, what I cannot understand is how the Minister of Finance (Mr. Fielding) allows them to pull the wool over his eyes. Of course, I do not attribute any personal wrong to him-no one would do that-.but we can hardly acauit him of great carelessness when he allows the money in his charge to be frittered away in this manner.

Now, the hon. member for Carleton spoke of these men in Richibucto as being Liberals and said he was proud of them.

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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL.

Hear, hear.

Mr' J. D. REID. He is proud of this kind of work. He is proud to see these people rob the public as they did in this case, and proud to defend their actions in the Public Accounts Committee. But I for one do not believe-I cannot believe- that this is the feeling of Liberals generally in this House or outside of this House. But we see that these gentlemen are offered no choice but either to swallow a transaction of this kind or be excommunicated from the party.

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Onésiphore Ernest Talbot

Liberal

Mr. TALBOT.

Will the hon. member permit me a remark or a question? Does he challenge members on this side of the House on this point and tell them that they act under compulsion in these matters? Has he any doubt as to the honesty of the transaction or of our sincerity in endorsing it?

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

I have no doubt whatever of the dishonesty of me transaction. And as to the members of the Liberal side being obliged to swallow them, I only speak from what I have seen in the past

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Onésiphore Ernest Talbot

Liberal

Mr. TALBOT.

Will the hon. member permit me to say

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

If the hon. member (Mr. Talbot) has a speech to make

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LIB
?

Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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April 21, 1910