January 13, 1910

LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

I do not see that that has anything to do with my argument at all, I think it is entirely foreign to the argument I have been making. [DOT]

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John Allister Currie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. A. CURRIE.

I would also ask him if the machinery is made in Canada of the same kind that was imported?

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CON

John Allister Currie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. A. CURRIE.

Then would the hon. gentleman consider it fair

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

I do not object to any questions the hon. gentleman may wish to ask me. I wish briefly to call the attention of the House to the very large increase in agricultural exports, and when we remember that the population of the country has increased about 30 per cent, these figures will be all the more striking, as they show that the products of our farms especially have increased at a much greater rate than has the population. We find that in 1896

,our agricultural exports amounted to $14,083,361; in 1909 they had increased to $71, 997,207, an increase of over 400 per cent. Taking animals and their products, we find that in 1896 we exported $36,507,641, while in 1909 we exported $51,349,646. Or if you take the total of agricultural products and of animals and their products, we find that we exported in 1896, $50,091,000, while in 1909 we exported $123,346,853.

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Charles Jonas Thornton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. THORNTON.

I would like to ask the hon. gentleman a question. Where does he get these figures?

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LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

They are in the trade and navigation returns.

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Charles Jonas Thornton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. THORNTON.

Where does he get his figures for 1909?

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LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

My hon. friend apparently does not know, but I will tell him, that the trade and navigation returns, while nominally for 1909, mean for 1908-9 ending the 31st of March last. So when I say 1909,

I mean the figures that were given and verified up to the 31st of March last.

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LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

For 1909 up to the 31st of March last, and they are here for any one to see. They are verified and correct.

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LIB

William Cameron Edwards

Liberal

Mr. EDWARDS.

Will the hon. gentleman pardon me? Has he the figures of the imports of animals and their products placed .alongside the exports in those lines?

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CON

John Allister Currie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. A. CURRIE.

Has the hon. gentleman the figures for the imports of grain and farm products, so that he can place them alongside the exports?

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LIB

Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

No, I have not, I have the total exports. But I have not the imports for the different articles that are referred to.

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John Allister Currie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. A. CURRIE.

Is it not a fact that the imports

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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Mr. J. A.@

CURRIE The hon. gentleman has given me permission. Will he be kind enough to state if it is not a fact that the percentage of increase in imports of farm products has been equally great with that of exports? If he reads the blue-book he will find that to be so.

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Malcolm Smith Schell

Liberal

Mr. SCHELL.

I am not able to say positively on that point, but I think he is mistaken. However, I do not think it makes any difference, because the price of our farm products is regulated by the English market almost entirely; and any imports that have come into Canada have come to certain sections of the Dominion that could not get them quite as easily elsewhere in

Canada as they could perhaps from the United States bordering on that particular portion of our country. The price of those products has been affected insignificantly by any imports coming from other countries; I claim that the amount is so small that it does not make much difference to the price that has been paid to the farmers of this country for the products they have sent to the English market.

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January 13, 1910