December 10, 1909

LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

And New Brunswick.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

How long was he at each place? Did each of these three visits cost $300?

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

I am told that it took about a month altogether to make the trips.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

He is paid a salary as well, and this is for expenses?

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

Yes, purely expenses.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

And that officer spends $900 on travelling expenses in one month?

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

The deputy minister informs me that he made a trip to London, England, to attend the international convention of electricians, and the expenses of that trip were charged to this item.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

What right had the minister to send an inspector to England and charge his expenses against this item? He should ask for a special vote or take it out of miscellaneous expenses. In any event there is no need to vote $1,500 this year unless the minister contemplates giving him another trip to the old country.

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

We could get along with $1,000 if it were worth while changing the estimate.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

If the minister took a sum of money and 'gave an officer a trip to England unauthorized by parliament, we ought not to trust him with $1,500. If we deduct the trip to England, $100 each should pay the expenses to these three places. ' .

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

The chief electrical engineer who attended the convention in London, was authorized to do so by order in council. It was a very important convention for the purpose of fixiug the standard electrical union.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

It was all right to send him there for information, but he was not sent there in connection with the export of electrical power and his expenses should be charged to some other vote. The minister admits that his expenses will cost some $200 or $300 and is asking $1,500. The item should be Tedueed to $500 That surely should pay the cost of visiting three places in the year, one trip to each place. He is asking for money which he does not know how to spend unless by giving some officer a trip to England and charging the expenses to this vote. The council had no right to authorize this man to go to England and charge his expenses to a vote when the House did not agree to it. I move that the item be reduced to $500.

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

I frankly admit that after the explanation given me by the deputy minister and the chief electrical engineer, $1,000 will do.

Inland Revenue Department-minor revenues, $500

Interior Department - ordnance lands -

salaries and expenses, $1,655.

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

These minor revenues are collections, such as administering the Ferries Act, advertising for tenders for ferries, and printing law stamps to be used in the Yukon. The other item does not concern the Inland Revenue Department, that is revenue collected by the Interior Department. .

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

Why are these two items mixed up?

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

I cannot explain as to the Interior Department, it is only one of the minor revenues.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

The Minister of the Interior should make an explanation of this item. .1 do not see why the items should be mixed in this way, charging part of the expenditure of the Interior Department to the Inland Revenue Department. We had better separate them.

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LIB

William Templeman (Minister of Mines; Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. TEMPLEMAN.

This vote has been taken for years, these items have been bracketted together, and I do not think either of them was ever discussed before.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

We would like to know what this money was spent for, and the Minister of the Interior is not here to tell us.

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LIB

William Paterson (Minister of Customs)

Liberal

Mr. PATERSON.

Then we will have to let it stand.

Customs-salaries and contingent expenses of the several ports in the Dominion, including pay for overtime of officers, notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act, $1,875,-

000.

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December 10, 1909