November 24, 1909

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

No, that is the name of the building.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Does the chief astronomer take the rank of a deputy minister or does he rank as a technical officer?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The chief astronomer does not hold the rank of a deputy minister. He is at the head of a branch.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Is there any specific salary provided under the Civil Service Act for that class of office, and if so, what is it?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The chief astronomer is in the highest division next the deputy minister.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

What salary does that division command?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

From $2,800 to $4,000. It is in class A of the first division.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

How do you justify the provision of a house for this officer and the refusal of the same to another who is in an equally high class or in a higher class?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

As the Department of Interior is responsible for the salary of the astronomer and also for this request^ I may be privileged to answer. The most important work of the astronomer necessarily is done at the observatory and at night. That being the case it is considered to tend both to economy and efficiency that he should reside at his place of work. The condition is not paralleled in the case of any other officer of the Department of the Interior, and it is not with the view of giving the astronomer- an advantage over any other officer of the department, but merely of putting him in a position whereby he can give the best and most work for the salary that he receives that this residence is being provided. It is not with a view of favouring the chief astronomer over any other officer, but merely to put him in a position whereby he can do the best and most work for his salary.

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Joseph Elijah Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG.

The chief astronomer receives a salary of $3,000 which will gradually go up to $4,000, and the Minister of Public Works tells -us that this house will be worth an additional thousand a year to him. Does not the Minister of the Interior see that if the reasons given by him are sound, then the three assistants should also be supplied with houses?

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

Are we to understand that these asimuth huts are to cost $6,000?

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

They are intended for the purpose of testing the steel tapes, a Mr. LANCASTER.

work which is essential in connection with the observatory, and considering _ the size of the building and the manner in which it is to be built, $6,000 does not appear to be out of the way.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

Why do you call them -huts? Is it because they are only one story and will cost $6,000?

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

It is the technical name by which they are known. The building is only one story but it is 177 feet long.

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Arthur Meighen

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN.

I beg to move that this item be reduced by $5,000, the reduction to apply te' the astronomer's residence.

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

Well, Mr. Chairman, with respect to that matter

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November 24, 1909